Do we really need a president?

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by GhostX, Feb 1, 2017.


  1. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus


     
  2. GhostX

    GhostX Monkey

    Who said they would have to give up the benefits set up for them? As I said before, all matters would rely on voting. If the majority votes to keep said services, it stays. This would make issues like homeless veterans a more tangible subject everyone can do something about if the consensus decides that they deserve funding. I see this as an idea that would unite America because of how all people under the flag will be able to demonstrate how much they care about this country. You're telling me it's already doomed to fail but I very much disagree. Just because something like this has never been tried before doesn't mean it will fail. Fact is, this has only recently become possible with the advancements in technology. The only thing it really does is take these rich people out of government and replace their power with the will of the people. Theoretically, I'm not sure how this can fail unless America is truly so mad it's beyond help.

    Any way, I know an idea like this will never see the light of day. That's why I posted it in the tin foil hat lounge.
     
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Who? EZ question. They lose the bennies if one, just one, vote is cast to defund the bennies.
     
  4. GhostX

    GhostX Monkey

    How is that a problem if the majority rules?
     
  5. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Honest answer...have you ever read the Constitution ?
     
  6. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Where is your social consciousness? Ah, yes, there is to be no money, so paying for it is immaterial, can't happen. Are you not the one that postulated keeping bennies in spite of a majority deciding to defund?. The former beneficiaries then do what?
     
  7. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    [stirpot] [pop]
     
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  8. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

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  9. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey+++

    The Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever created. It is remarkably easy to understand, clearly spells out rights, it does not grant rights but embraces and promotes rights. It clearly spells out each branch of the Governments authority and Limitations. It provides the basis for laws and protections of the individual. It also spells out responsibilities incumbent on every citizen. When you read this document and compare it to what we have today, you can't help but be made to wonder how quickly the Founding Fathers would take to start organizing a revolution to restore the intent and meaning of the law of the land and destroy what it has been circumvented and subverted into now. IMO the state we are in now is because far too many people wrap themselves in the rights both real and imagined while rejecting the responsibilities. Ask the average person to list off the Bill of Rights and you will watch them struggle to get one or two. And then in blissful ignorance not be able to tell you what those rights mean. That sh!t Starts at home and as a society we have collectively failed our duty to protect and preserve the Constitution and surrendered our rights simply by being ignorant of them. If parent can't teach their children something as important as their fundamental rights and responsibilities, Government Day Care will be happy to via a very socialist education system. And with each passing generation the masses become more dependent and ignorant.
     
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  10. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Well said @Thunder5Ranch [applaud] :5s:
     
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  11. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey+++

    I have a moment now and then :) "Pigs are not any easier to understand than people they just make more sense." Me in a interview in 2006.
     
  12. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

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  13. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    The President was never intended to be a "leader". The President is our chief executive...a management position. While leadership skills are definitely a plus for the position, they are not a requirement.
     
  14. rjburk

    rjburk Monkey

    Are Chief Executives not Leaders, whether a Corporation or as President ? where would Apple, Microsoft and many others be without a Chief executive ( Leader ) ? The President is a Leader....Often referred to as The Leader of the Free World... looked to by millions and many Countries as a Leader.....whatever intentions the position was intended to be, it is certainly a Leadership position....have all Presidents been Leaders ? No, and they are obvious through our history.....America needs a Leader who has chief executive skills.....
     
  15. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    And all the books that come after it. Should be required reading in schools, but truth does not promote the agenda
     
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  16. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    Like I said, leadership skills are a plus, but not a requirement. It's a freakin management position. That many of our Presidents since Washington (who was an actual leader) morphed the office into some kind Master of the Universe only highlights how we have ignored Washington's advice and example.
     
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  17. rjburk

    rjburk Monkey

    It's not about some requirement....it's about what's needed......Leadership is needed.....I see plenty of senior NCO's in the Military who had all the required classes and certs who were not Leaders.....Men follow Leaders, not manager's....the people of the U.S. want a Leader, we voted for a Leader not a requirement....requirements have to be met in order to be President, Citizenship, Min. age and a few others....those are in no means what people vote for...If you don't consider POTUS a Leader that is fine....more will disagree with you than agree.....
     
  18. GhostX

    GhostX Monkey

    You're absolutely right. It was never really explained to me. I think my mom knew and might have wanted to but she was always working. I got most of my education from public schools. It helped me learn basic things but only now do I realize how much was left out. Reflecting on all of it is a bit disturbing because even if my mom wanted to home school me, she would never have had the time... I don't want my kids to grow up like that. I want to teach my kids everything I can and spend as much time with them as I can. I don't want a government run school system to do it for me.
     
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  19. chimo

    chimo the few, the proud, the jarhead monkey crowd

    More Presidents lacked leadership skills than had them.
     
  20. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    So - No Representation without Taxation? Has a certain ring to it.
     
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