Do you know what this is? Oil Lamp

Discussion in 'Functional Gear & Equipment' started by Ura-Ki, Aug 5, 2016.

  1. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Ok, The title should make you wonder, is Ura-Ki finally off the deep end eating stoopid soup? NO, This is one of those old tools you all should have a few of around the house
    [​IMG]not only is it a very good source of light, but can heat a room pretty good when the power goes out and it's freezing! I have been collecting these for over 8 years, and I even learned how to make my own fuel out of things I have around ( and you should too) The wife and I tested this out last winter, we were snowed in with no power. I didn't start the gen set as I wanted to see how good the house was at keeping heat and more importantly, how every thing else would work! We took only Two of these to the bed room 12''X16'' and set them on ether side of the bed. The room temp was 12 deg above 0 when we started. With both lamps at full "power" I took a temp reading at one hour, The temp was up to 22 deg above 0 and after two hours the temp was up to 39 deg Above freezing! At three hours, the temp was up to 45 deg and pretty much topped out at that temp! The next night we repeated this with four lamps, and we got the temps up to 68 deg in four hours and we were still building heat! SO...........When the power is out and you need heat, these can save you and can also be used to keep un occupied areas from freezing, just check on them often! Home Made fuel can be made using Olive Oil mixed with honey, bees wax, and rendered animal fats! You want 65% olive oil with 25% rendered fat, and a 50/50 mix of honey and wax! Now go out and pick through those old country yard sales and antique shops. The Older the better! New wick can be found at good stores like ACE hardware and other Good home supply outlets and out door stores as well as on line! You want to ask for Hurricane lamp wick, or Storm lamp wick
  2. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Gotta watch using wax or paraffin in any oil lamp. It will clog the wick eventually.

    I prefer center draft lamps myself - more light :)
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  3. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    Center draft lamps? Need pics! as this is over my head without visual aides.[fnny][notworking]
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  4. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Your kidding?
    102 in the shade and I'm going to light one of these, Candle for me and not too many.
  5. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grampa Monkey

    Hear you go, center draft lamp! I have several, more light, and heat, but go through the fuel FAST
  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    candle lanterns work great, too.
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  7. Joe13

    Joe13 Monkey

    So far I have one of those little buddy propane heaters.

    O2 sensor for shut off and it heats a lot of space.

    The down side is it runs they the propane in a hurry.
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  8. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    It's an old Oil lamp ! And what I lend to city folk (who evade my area ) cheap asian train crap at it's best.
    I run Aladdin's , 5 and have for years 40+ .
    trick is they are like woman , takes a long time to warm to output !!! ( Joking Gurls ) say in 10 mins , they are stable & just run .
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2017
  9. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    Are you sure it isn't in the technique of the operator? :p:p:p:LOL::(
  10. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Was raised with oil lamps for light as kid and we were not allowed to use the glass style ones shown above. We had to use the old tin barn style lamps until we were teens. The chimney, glass part on top gets very hot and it will set fire to anything it touches, and the base will break if dropped. The adults used the oil lamps for light and in the kitchen etc we used the "Aladdin" type with a hollow wick that works almost like a mantle on a gas type lamp. It is about as bright as a 100 watt light bulb and puts out a lot of heat. Up until about 5 years ago the oil lights were my first choice for light in case of power failure, for prepping, etc. At that point the new led's and rechargeable batteries with solar recharging have replaced the lamps for light as they aren't a fire danger and don't burn up the oxygen in the room, although I still use them when I want light and heat. There used to be metal oil lanterns that were set up to cook using the waste heat, don't have one but have seen them. I have about 100 gallons of kerosene around the place, use it in lamps, heater for my green house, can cut diesel when it is real cold, can burn in my oil furnace, can use as a cleaner for parts, stores very well, etc. I have a couple old lanterns from a stage coach inn near here that are about 150 years old. Metal base, metal reflector, glass chimney, that were designed to hang on a wall as well as sit on a table and used coal oil for fuel. How history repeats itself,cannel coal was heated to produce a fuel used in lamps in the 1850's and such until replaced by kerosene made from oil. Coal oil is now classified as a shale oil and is a cousin of all that stuff from Canada. The technology is such that there are deposits in Penn that could be mined by hand and lamp fuel made using a few 55 gal drums and a coil to condense the vapors. If TSHF I would love to claim dibs on that as when I was a kid, 75 years ago, we used kerosene for light in our lamps, mom cooked on a kerosene stove on the porch in the summer, we had a "pot" type heating stove for the main room that run on it that was quicker to fire up and at low levels would heat all night, used it and waste oil to soak our fence posts, wash our machine parts, heat water in the summer, kill fleas etc on the animals and I don't know what else..Read a book in the 1940's when I was in about the 3 rd grade about Oil for the Lamps of China that still sticks in my mind so I guess those cheap chinamart lamps have been around for a while.
  11. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    An incendiary device used In old time two reeler westerns, to enable baddies to escape, or commit arson. Also used as a means of illumination during sultry sex scenes in some of the more arty westerns ;)
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  12. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    You might want to look into Candle in a Clay Pot improvised Heaters also. I am sure the info is here at Monkey. ........ Finding it, might be a bit difficult. jus sayin
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  13. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    This is a really great thread and no one will ever be able to find it again because it isn't labeled correctly.

    Remember the intent of this forum is to share info. you can't share info you can't find. so please consider renaming this to something like 'oil lamps' or 'lighting without electricity'

    We are so lost in the world of marketing that it's made us all inadvertently liars because we don't call something what it is.
  14. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    @tacmotusn @Ura-Ki

    Using the advanced search feature at the top of the SM web pages will help find SM referenced stuff....if you can finesse the search terms successfully.

    Let's talk Candles | Survival Monkey Forums

    Alternatively, there is a heap of info on clay pot heaters / flower pot heaters via Google..... both articles and images.
    YouTube is another source of info about this method.

    There are a myriad of designs of varying practicality, effectiveness and safety risks. YMMV

    Be aware that with anything that relies on a naked flame for radiant heat involves a fire risk. These things should not be left unattended. A smoke alarm is highly recommended. The surfaces of these things can reach temperatures which may cause burns if touched / handled....not good to be left within the reach of children.


    How to Make a Candle Heater
  15. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Candles themselves provide heat. The ceramics simply store some of the heat given off, and actually delay the heating effect until the ceramics are up to equilibrium temps. It's a neat concept, and when the candle burns out or is snuffed, the ceramics will continue to put out some heat. There is, contrary to some people's belief, no enhancement of heat by use of the pots. Chelly's cautionary notes are good, if rather nannyish.
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  16. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Nannyish though they may services regularly get called to house fires where candles are left unattended....or folk fall asleep while the contraptions are still burning....infants also regularly get admitted to burns units because the monkeys ...climb like monkeys and are curious monkeys.

    There is also some negative feedback by some on You Tube about these devices; reporting that they have caused fires.
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  17. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Honey is too valuable food to be using for heat much less oil.
    Those are a better heater internally than externally.
    Kerosene and diesel which is significantly cheaper, are so closely related it's hardly worth the argument, your getting smoke one way or another, so your need good ventilation no matter what your using. I have a friend in the mountains that uses candles for both heating and lighting in his home ( he is off the grid.) Soot is still an issue.
    Something you might consider though is alcohol , which burns cleaner and can be made at home as well, with cast off organics rather then using good food substitutes .
    In east Asia the schools provide the students with alcohol for their light so they can study after school.
    The alcohol is made from the school garbage, and distilled .
    It is a fuel that can be made and stored safely and alcohol lamps are even simpler than kerosene lamps. and a fraction of the smoke if any.
    Oh and you can cook with it as well .

    Food for thought .
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  18. Bishop

    Bishop Monkey+++

    I used a can of Crisco with a wick in it.
  19. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    No pic no proof

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  20. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Anyone I know under 30 would be looking for the bowl and thumb hole...
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