Does not have to be a firearm to commit violent acts.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Alpha Dog, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    Alot of people are guilty including me when on patrol always looking for the gun in the hands of an attacker or even a ball bat. The knife in my opinion is just as deadly and in alot of cases will do the job better and with drawing less attenntion

    Sorry forgot to add the article. (long day)

    Police: Man with 3 knives stabs 4 in Ohio building

    ap_logo_106. <CITE class="byline vcard">By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS | Associated Press – <ABBR class=updated title=2012-03-15T00:26:16Z>11 mins ago</ABBR></CITE>

    • <LI id=yui_3_3_0_20_1331771903760339 class="photo first">A member of the Columbus crime scene search unit investigates the scene where a man …
    • 5614009d75d0ec07090f6a7067006b5e. Enlarge Photo A Columbus police car sits outside Miami-Jacobs Career College where a stabbing occurred …

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    COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A man armed with three knives went on a stabbing spree in a downtown office building on Wednesday, starting in the admissions office of a technical school and injuring four people, including an employee of the state attorney general, authorities said. The rampage stopped when he was shot by a police officer on the street in front of the building just blocks from the state Capitol.
    The man confronted one victim in the admissions office of Miami-Jacobs Career College before 1 p.m. and stabbed him, Columbus police spokesman Sgt. Rich Weiner said. Other people intervened and took away a knife the man was using but didn't realize he had others, Weiner said.
    "We do know that one of the good Samaritans that came to aid the first victim, he was stabbed also," Weiner said.
    Four men, including the attacker, were in critical condition after the stabbing spree, authorities said, and a fifth man had minor injuries. Police have identified the victims and the attacker but haven't released their names, Weiner said.
    Two of the victims were either students or staff members at the privately run school, Weiner said. Two other victims were outside in the lobby area when they were attacked, he said. All the stabbings occurred on the first floor.
    One of the victims is employed by the state's attorney general, who has offices in the 25-story building, a spokeswoman for Attorney General Mike DeWine said. DeWine's office isn't in there, and he wasn't present at the time, spokeswoman Lisa Hackley said.
    She said she couldn't provide further details about the victim at the family's request.
    DeWine thanked the more than 500 attorney general employees who work in the building for their calm response.
    "Our thoughts and prayers are with all who have been affected by this senseless violence," DeWine said in a written statement.
    A knife was recovered inside the school, and two knives were found near the attacker outside after he had been shot.
    Police would not describe the knives except to say they were bigger than pocket knives.
    One officer used a stun gun on the attacker at around the time another officer shot him, Weiner said. Officials don't know whether the stabbing was random or stemmed from an earlier issue, he said.
    The attacker had a knife in each hand when he went at officers, said Jim Gilbert, president of the local Fraternal Order of Police.
    Multiple shots were fired at the man by the officer who was closest to him, Gilbert said. The officer, who has been on the police force for 15 years, "did what she had to do," Gilbert said.
    Weiner said the officer who shot the attacker was working nearby on a regularly scheduled patrol shift when she got the call and arrived first, followed by numerous other officers.
    Columbus officers responded within a minute of 911 calls Wednesday to a "very chaotic scene" with people screaming, Gilbert said.
    "Many citizens' lives were saved today because of the quick actions, quick response of the Columbus police officers that responded," he said.
    The officer was taken to a hospital with a minor knee injury suffered as she was backing away when the attacker approached her, Gilbert said.
    Jason Jackson, who works at Gordon's Gourmet in the building lobby, said he heard that someone had been stabbed, so he ran out of the building. When he went back to see what was happening, he saw the attacker outside.
    "He had a knife, and the police had just pulled up, and they're saying, 'Sir, you need to stop. You need to just put the knife down.' He wouldn't," said Jackson, of Reynoldsburg. "They drew guns. 'Sir, please put the knife down.' And he kind of lunged at them, so they shot him."
    College spokesman Chuck Vella said everyone must sign in before entering the admissions office. He said security personnel are at every campus of the college, which has five other locations around Ohio.
    The trade school offers classes in massage therapy, security and investigation, criminal justice and court reporting.
    The for-profit college is owned by Delta Career Education Corp., which is based in Virginia Beach, Va. A receptionist at the company said no one wanted to talk about the stabbings.
    The company's website said it has 37 campuses and 16,000 students nationwide.
    Associated Press writers John Seewer in Toledo and Kantele Franko and Ann Sanner in Columbus contributed to this report.
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  2. Redneck Rebel

    Redneck Rebel Monkey++

    Carry a Buck Vanguard on my belt daily and only time it seems to get more than a passing glance from a LEO is when they are already well within striking distance. I walk a lot and the most common way attacks happen are from behind and end up in wrestling matches. In the event something like that happens to me (again) I suspect the knife will be of far more use to me than the XDm.
  3. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    It takes a little more balls to cut someone up.
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  4. Cephus

    Cephus Monkey+++ Founding Member

    The cane I walk with and boker in my pocket make a very deadly couple !!
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  5. TheEconomist

    TheEconomist Creighton Bluejay

    I carry a small 3" gerber flip pocket knife when downtown. I do this because it is something I can get away with in the office as an al purpose tool or letter opener type.

    Knives do draw less attention than a firearm simply due to stigma. However, all you have to do is ask one of the four people that was stabbed today in Ohio how they feel about it. They disarmed the guy of one knife after he stabbed one person and didnt think about checking him for another....thats how the other three got cut up!
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  6. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    Sorry I forgot to add the article It has been along day and baby momma had dinner ready.
  7. TheEconomist

    TheEconomist Creighton Bluejay

    hahahaha i beat you to it!!!!
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  8. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    I know I bet the guys though I had been in the shine
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  9. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Monkey+


    The cane I walk with and the benchmade in my pocket make a very deadly couple as well !!
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  10. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    Takes more balls to be harmed rather than to do harm.
  11. STANGF150

    STANGF150 Knowledge Seeker

    I'm what a Ex-military friend calls "good with my hands". When He said that I had to ask just what he meant. Apparently it means if you put most any thing in my hands, I can use it as a weapon. I told him there was nothing new about that, I'd always been that way. Cuz brothers growing up in the country tend to use anything & everything when they fighting like cats & dogs.
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