Don't Trust Glenn Beck

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Brokor, Feb 12, 2010.


  1. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    He's working for the bad guys. Do you need any more proof than this?

    http://www.youtube.com/user/thealexjoneschannel?blend=1&ob=4#p/a/f/1/UGcXHt-QEZg

    If you ever have any doubts, if you even ONCE watch Beck spewing his sobbing stories about how much he "loves America and freedom" -then watch this video and REMEMBER.

    Remember that Glenn Beck is an agent of subversion and he will do anything for money. He is a liar and a well paid servant for chaos.
     
  2. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Don't trust Alex Jones!!! Don't trust Obama!!! Don't trust Mike Savage!!! Don't trust your Parents!!! Don't trust your wife!!! Hell, Don't trust me, and I certainly don't trust you!!! Now have I got everyone's attention and ire? I trust Alex Jones a whole lot less than I trust Glenn Beck. I trust very few if anyone unconditionally. Good old Ronald Reagan probably said it best..."trust but, verify!" I am more likely to trust someone who seems to have values, principals, and ideas more like my own than someone who doesn't. I consider Alex Jones to be a rabble rouser more than anything else, and these mini bites about Glenn Beck honey picked out to make him look bad does nothing to change my opinion of him. Play the whole damn clip/transcript or whatever. Release program transcripts with each honey picked mini clip identified as to who when and where and let the public see whether or not its true or taken out of context. Alex Jones.... 90 percent PURE BS!!!!!!!!!![yukface]
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    Broker, nothing personal, I just ain't buying it. I think I expressed my reasons why above...
     
  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I can't read your post since I previously set you on ignore, Tac.

    I am certain that it is something respectful and becoming a gentleman of your age, however. Regardless, I think that Glenn Beck just signed a 50 million dollar deal. I know that you are a sensible person and support my obvious claims, for only a blind, deaf, brainwashed fool would support Glenn Beck -and I certainly do not think you are blind nor deaf.

    Best regards to those who can read the fine print, and may whatever god or government you believe in not ask for your hard earned money. Take care now.
     
  4. texican

    texican Monkey+

    I don't have unlimited broadband... got through the part about the VAT.

    Or is it because GB is making money.

    Why is GB a sellout?
     
  5. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    I think he is a cleverly packaged 'useful outlet' for misguided patriots to channel their efforts into a pre-planned outcome that is spoon fed. The puppet masters have to keep the 2.5 sides of the population polarized so they cannot unify to see the forest beyond the trees while also leading them to believe that they are: doing something, making a stand, and 'rebelling' against the other side; all the while spinning their wheels and wearing themselves out accomplishing nothing except a small 'win' here or there.

    You can learn much about this tactic from just about any work of Shakespeare.

    Beck is not the only one.
     
  6. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    And THIS is why I respect Melbo so greatly.
     
  7. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Renegades or others that run against the establishment will never garner multi million dollar contracts from that same establishment. True Patriots have always been scorned and labelled as outcasts from the first days of our founding.
     
  8. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Indeed. Crazies, conspiracy theorists, terrorists, sympathizers, revolutionaries...take your pic.

    We are truly fighting against the minds of one another in a terrible war for our sanity and self preservation. We face not an enemy with a face; we face no army nor invasion. Every single day, we are left with only what remains in the darkest depths of our perception -our own conscience turned against us.

    We stand alone. But some of us also stand ready.
     
  9. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

     
  10. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Give me something here from the Alex Jones show that I can relate to and easily understand. Easily to understand, not because I am stupid and you need to talk slowly to me, but because I hate mush mouthed politicians who intentionally talk in circles or gibberish to avoid the truth, or lawyers who have their own way of making 10,000 words do their talking for them when 200 would have worked for you or me.
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    here is something from Glenn Beck's show I can relate to.
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    The following letter read on Glenn Beck's show, is rapidly circulating around the country. Americans everywhere identify with this 53-year-old woman. She has given us a voice. Once you read this, you will want to forward it to all of your friends...


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    GLENN BECK: I got a letter from a woman in Arizona . She writes an open letter to our nation's leadership:


    "I am a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my life. Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican because I no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. Now I no longer feel the Republican Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. The fact is I no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington represents my views or works to pursue the issues important to me. Instead, we are burdened with Congressional Dukes and Duchesses who think they know better than the citizens they are supposed to represent.
    There must be someone. Please tell me who you are. Please stand up and tell me that you are there and that you're willing to fight for our Constitution as it was written. Please stand up now.
    You might ask yourself what my views and issues are that I would feel so horribly disenfranchised by both major political parties. What kind of nut-job am I? Well, these briefly are the views and issues for which I seekrepresentation:

    One, illegal immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels.. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution.
    P.S., I'm not a racist. This is not to be confused withlegal immigration.


    Two, the STIMULUS bill. I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you No, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.


    Three: Czars. I want the circumvention of our constitutional checks and balances stopped immediately. Fire the czars. No more czars. Government officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling on our Constitution, and honor it.


    Four, cap and trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There are many conflicting opinions and it is too soon for this radical legislation. Quit throwing our nation into politically-correct quicksand.


    Five, universal healthcare. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision that will burden me, my children, and grandchildren. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night without even reading it. Slow down! Fix only what is broken -- we have the best health care system in the world -- and test any new program in one or two states first.


    Six, growing government control. I want states rights and sovereigntyfully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. More is not better! Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real [Constitutional] obligations. Why don't you start there.


    Seven, ACORN. I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of our 2010 census. I want them investigated. I also do not want mandatory escrow fees contributed to them every time on every real estate deal that closes -- how did they pull that one off? Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits and investigations. I do not trust them with taking the census with our taxpayer money. I don't trust them with any of our taxpayer money. Face up to the allegations against them and get it resolved before taxpayers get any more involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, hello. Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. Investigate.


    Eight, redistribution of wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine.I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs -- and that is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person! Why do you want me to hate my employers? And what do you have against shareholders making a profit?


    Nine, charitable contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.


    Ten, corporate bailouts. Knock it off. Every company must sink or swim like the rest of us. If there are hard times ahead, we'll be better off just getting into it and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. (Have you ever ripped off a Band-Aid?) We will pull together. Great things happen in America under great hardship. Give us the chance to innovate. We cannot disappoint you more than you have disappointed us.


    Eleven, transparency and accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk.. Please stop trying to manipulate and appease me with clever wording.. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.


    Twelve, unprecedented quick spending. Stop it now.
    Take a breath. Listen to the people. Slow down and get some input from nonpoliticians and experts on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency. Stop speed-reading our bills into law. I am not an activist.. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a terrorist, a militant or a violent person. I am a parent and a grandparent.. I work. I'm busy. I am busy, and I am tired. I thought we elected competent people to take care of the business of government so that we could work, raise our families, pay our bills, have a little recreation, complain about taxes, endure our hardships, pursue our personal goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on the weekends and be responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to be the same all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave.


    I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the checks and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened? You are very far off course. Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to unintelligently ramble all through a bill that you signed into law without knowing what it contained? I do not.
    It is a mockery of the responsibility I have entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your arrogance. Why is it that I feel as if you would not trust me to make a single decision about my own life and how I would live it but you should expect that I should trust you with the debt that you have laid on all of us and our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would repeal it if we could. I am sure that we still cannot. There is needless urgency and recklessness in all of your recent spending of our tax dollars.


    From my perspective, it seems that all of you have gone insane. I also know that I am far from alone in these feelings. Do you honestly feel that your current pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We want to put the brakes on everything that is being rushed by us and forced upon us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on hold to straighten out the mess that you are making. We will have to give up our vacations, our time spent with our children, any relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford to spend on bringing our concerns to Washington . Our president often knows all the right buzzwords like unsustainable. Well, no kidding. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the focus group cost to come up with that word? We don't want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like we're morons.


    We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job we want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. You work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long because we are coming. We will be heard and we will be represented.. You think we're so busy with our lives that we will never come for you? We are the formerly silent majority, all of us who quietly work, pay taxes, obey the law, vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone... and we are now looking at you.

    You have awakened us, the patriotic freedom spirit so strong and so powerful that it had been sleeping too long. You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. They may surprise you. For every one of us who will be there, there will be hundreds more that could not come. Unlike you, we have their trust. We will represent them honestly, rest assured. They will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of office.
    We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. We will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will flourish. We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are coming off. We do not come in violence, but we are angry. You will represent us or you will be replaced with someone who will. There are candidates among us who will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes that you have made of our constitution.


    Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian. Understand this.. We don't care. Political parties are meaningless to us Patriotic Americans are willing to do right by us and our Constitution, and that is all that matters to us now. We are going to fire all of you who abuse power and seek more. It is not your power. It is ours and we want it back. We entrusted you with it and you abused it. You are dishonorable. You are dishonest. As Americans we are ashamed of you. You have brought shame to us. If you are not representing the wants and needs of your constituency loudly and consistently, in spite of the objections of your party, you will be fired. Did you hear? We no longer care about your political parties. You need to be loyal to us, not to them.. Because we will get you fired and they will not save you.
    If you do or can represent me, my issues, my views, please stand up. Make your identity known. You need to make some noise about it. Speak up. I need to know who you are. If you do not speak up, you will be herded out with the rest of the sheep and we will replace the whole damn congress if need be one by one.
    We are coming. Are we coming for you? Who do you represent? What do you represent?
    Listen. Because we are coming. We the people are coming

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  11. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I am certain that whatever Tac responded with was also insightful and brilliantly worded to include his portrayal of how trustworthy Glenn Beck really is.

    This has been fun, but I have to go now, Tac. I don't want to read what he wrote. I can only guess. Usually, he responds just after I do -this is proof that he is a troll. No matter, I cannot read what he says so it doesn't bother me. Just try to settle down, Tac. Everything will be just fine. Breathe and relax. Breathe and relax. Watch some Beck. :lol:
     
  12. SLugomist

    SLugomist Monkey++

    Ron Paul should step up for tea party leadership and make sure it doesn't turn into neocons in disguise. That is why I abore Palin, she's a neocon twit. Beck started as one, but "switched", that's why I don't trust him.
     
  13. USMCwife

    USMCwife Monkey++

    I'm with you Tac. I believe a lot of us feel the same as that woman. But now, we know even more, and it is much more upsetting and unsettling to know. In my opinion, Glenn Beck is a descent man with a lot of passion for the Constitutition. He may be misguided in some areas, but I think he means well. He has been a gateway to many people. He has inspired many blissfully ignorant people to wake up. I once listened to him regularly, but now our paths have grown apart because I feel I've grown past his typical audience.
    In all those times listening to him, he never took quotes out of context. His sarcasm may be bit hard to read through at times, but he's always quick to admit when he's wrong. Alex Jones, on the other hand, has an all out war on for Glenn Beck. He constantly takes his quotes out of context. Why the war? They have some of the same values. Why not participate in cordial discourse--agree to disagree? Alex Jones seems to be creating another battle in the Left / Right paradigm, but it's with the Right / Far Right. Most of Infowar's articles are editorial and opinion based. There are also some good articles to be found. But I live on facts and facts alone. When I see someone blatantly twisting information, I lose respect for them. We all don't have to think alike, but we all basically want the same thing---America as it was founded. Why are radio hosts pitting like-minded people against each other?
    And as I have learned recently--question everything, question everyone, and don't rely on someone else to shape your beliefs for you. Study and find the facts for yourself--only then will you know what you truly believe.
     
  14. USMCwife

    USMCwife Monkey++

    I don't want to sound like I'm rallying for Beck on that previous post. I just wanted to show that both men have something good and bad to bring to the table, and yet they both want the same America.
     
  15. fireplaceguy

    fireplaceguy Monkey+

    Man, as a brand new member it does my heart good to see this kind of wisdom in the leadership. Bravo!!!

    I call them controlled opposition. Beck, Limbaugh, Jones, Savage, et al are just heat sinks to drain away our energy so the powers that be are never singed by our anger. Meantime, the left wing and the right wing are attached to the same bird, and the bird is what keeps pooping on us.

    We need to wake up and clip BOTH wings, cage the bird and put it on a strict diet. Otherwise we're finished.

    Can't even express how happy I am to see this kind of clear thinking!

    (PS: When I joined I didn't put up my URL because my blog can get rather pungent. Clearly, my thoughts fit well here, so I've updated my profile.)
     
  16. BAT1

    BAT1 Cowboys know no fear

    There are a lot of misinformation agents out there, it's like walking through a viper pit. They divide and conquer. I believe Beck and Palin are two agents trying to high jack the TRUE tea party people, so the RINO's can take it back in 2012. When it comes down to it, you use your own wisdom, because the facts are being twisted. Clip both Wings, glad you joined fireplaceguy! We are truly fighting a two headed snake to the finish.
     
  17. NVBeav

    NVBeav Monkey+++

    Here's one of the ploys I use all the time* to put a wedge between friends:
    "I know you really respect [insert name here e.g. Glen Beck]<INSERT name Glen e.g. here Beck\> <INSERT name Beck Glen e.g. here>, but Jonesee says he believes [insert reports of evil here]<INSERT here thing evil some>."
    It works all the time; I don't even have to back it up with facts or listen to those arguing with me!

    *Ok, I'm really not smart enough to actually plan deception as such.
     
  18. USMCwife

    USMCwife Monkey++

    fireplaceguy,
    I think you are right on target. If only more people would stop looking to other men (aka radio hosts) to fight their battles. These hosts will only keep the battle going until we're all dead. Stop spending 3 hours a day listening to radio heads and start using those hours to do something about it and get prepared. But, I do like to use couple of them for info leads. I'll be checking out your blog. Thanks for joining.
     
  19. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    If only they WOULD fight the battles. All they are really doing is collecting adherents and drawing lines in the sand that are meaningless distractions from the real battlefront. Just what TPTB are banking on. There is no substitute for thinking in place of listening to talking heads and swallowing a line. (Palin is now a talking head, be guided accordingly.)
     
  20. USMCwife

    USMCwife Monkey++

    you're right--they don't actually fight, but I don't think they wake up in the morning believing they are false leaders continuing the left / right battle. I think they start with good intentions, but get stuck in the mire and become just another threatening stick in the mud. They more I learn about Palin, the more I fear she'll rally an unknowing crowd down the very path they were fighting against.
     
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