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"dropping out" the new underground railroad

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tango3, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Interesting post on the crazy"ATS" board. The new gypsys signing off fromtheworldof taxes anddrivers licenses:.



    Taxes, mortgage, insurance, taxes, mortgage, insurance, taxes, mortgage, insurance, fines, fees, licenses.


    I haven't posted at ATS in about 2 months. Last I was here I was a landlord overseeing 4500 sqft of historic rental space... under high tension lines. No more.


    Every penny I had and twice what I collected from tenants I poured into that situation to appease the institutions. Polluted, flouridated, cloridated city water in the pipes. Ungodly prices for organic food. Downtown, city cops on my block constantly, helicopters overhead, daily airshows from the military authority. Ever rising expense of the commute to and from a productive thing to do... no more.

    I passed my trucks on to a friendly farm. I passed title of my land on to another friendly farm. My tools and family are stashed away at another friendly location. The half million dollars in rental houses... I ain't going back and from what I've heard, my "tenant" are supposedly living free... Some intend to rip down the foreclosure, eviction, and sale signs staying right where they were. Some have also dipped out, unable to stand the high tension lines, even with free rent.

    The banks.
    The insurance companies.
    The city, the fed, the IRS, and all of their BS taxes, fees, and fines...
    The courts, the summons, the probation officer...
    The moldy storm damaged house full of years of pesticides and pollution...

    Peace out. I'm on dirt road now and I ain't leaving.

    I work for free. I travel where I am expected and welcome. I usually have a roof over my head, but otherwise stay in tent. We have free organic food wherever I bring my family, self, and tools; such is understood if you want this craftsman to travel your way. This is the new underground railroad; for the new slave on the run. Right now, we're living 8 miles outside of a town with population of under 300... I'll be gone and on my way to another location by spring.

    I am a gypsie and the $350,000 my "incorporated" "exchequer" "birth certificate" name "owes" to the institution will NEVER be paid.

    I'm over it. I'm over the whole damn system. We're over it.

    Call it financial suicide. Call it economic jihad if you like. I breathe fresh air now. I drink pure water now. Fresh meat is in abundance all around me and the ground flourishes with edible woodland mushrooms.

    I'm on the road. And I'm not alone. From looks of it... now that I am on the "railroad" in "community" there are thousands of us; I'd bet millions in the US right now. Some with bench warrents for petty drug charges. Some with summons for things they didn't do. Some foreclosed and in tent cities. Some hiding with family. Some hiding with friends. Some hiding with those just friendly to the cause. Some squatting in... was that one of my rental houses? Some with unpaid hospital bills. Some with unpaid IRS tabs. And none of us have any intent of ever going back, paying back, or checking in. We don't have driver's licenses. We don't go out on the pavement. We don't enter the cities. We ran for the hills. We make our way from "gatherings" to "communes" to "coops", from farm to farm, from non-capitalist community to non-capitalist community.

    For us, capitalist society is done. We are in hiding as we watch it collapse and a new tribal society unfold. We purchase our basic needs collectively in tribes. We farm almost all that we need. We live essentially off grid. We piss and poo in the woods.

    Our conscience now clear of our supposed debts and crimes of the incorporated city... There is no city, there is no court, there is no government, and there IS NO BANK. It was all an ILLUSION, and we see through it. All of our personal possessions are given up to the community, we are free and we live communally in small tribes scattered throughout rural america. We are far from the beaten path and our children are being born out of hospitals without social security numbers. Our sir names are unspoken. Our given names have been set aside for nicknames and aliases. Some of us keep prepaid cellular phones registered in other names, which we share collectively. Amongst tribe, sensimilla is once again as legal, as it has always been lawful; it is shared freely. In many ways a new nation has been born, a nation within a nation.

    Free at last.

    The wife and I are pregnant; it certainly throws a twist on things. We are going to give birth in the woods, alone, with a friendly "community" midwife. After reading a few books on alternative birthing... we certainly do not trust the hosptitals (thanks Ina May Gaskin and Jennifer Block) We also don't trust bought meat, we're on rice and bean rations, we get farm fresh milk and eggs from the farm at which we labor. I hunt squirrels and fish upstream trout. A diet free of hormones and injections. There will be no vaccinations given to my child, nor indoctrination in the corporate education system.

    If your experience is similiar, and you've "dipped out" as well, please post your tale. I assure you, we're not alone.

    This is my 10/7 message to you. This is the new paradigm opening for the debt slave, for those caught up in "the system".

    I'm at the library; borrowing an ID to login... it may be a while before I speak to you again.

    This is the new face of SURVIVAL. Best of luck to you all.

    If you're not buying in... well... good luck with your corporate job.

    I am,

    Sri Oracle

    This is my mighty pen.
    If your experience is similiar, and you've "dipped out" as well, please post your tale. I assure you, we're not alone.

    This is my 10/7 message to you. This is the new paradigm opening for the debt slave, for those caught up in "the system".

    I'm at the library; borrowing an ID to login... it may be a while before I speak to you again.

    This is the new face of SURVIVAL. Best of luck to you all.

    If you're not buying in... well... good luck with your corporate job.

    I am,

    Sri Oracle

    This is my mighty pen.
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  2. CBMS

    CBMS Looking for a safe place

    huh, well to whomever this is written by good luck and have fun! oh yeah hope you aren't in a state that gets snow...
    EDIT: This also stinks like a "born again hippie revolution" It sounds like some people have regretted missing their parents flirtation with the 60's. Its a grand Idea, however it will never last for long. the government doesn't like having gypsies on the run...
  3. kansasrebel

    kansasrebel Monkey++

    I'm betting heavily that you will start seeing more of that in the near future. Is it me or do you also feel that the world as we know it is about to be no more?
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Jack Kerouac incarnate.
  5. Quantrill

    Quantrill Monkey++

    I see these people all the time. Some are ok, some are really f#cked up.
    It would be a damn hard way to live for sure.
  6. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    Just one of many "sub-cultures", I imagine.
    Perhaps there will be more, but I hope they don't go by the name of "the travelers".
    They have a very nasty reputation here for sure.
    Not for who they are, but for the acts perpetrated on the older folks in the retirement communities.
    Now, "IF" they were in-fact TRUE Gypsies, well, that's a different story.
    I found them to be warm, honest and very ferocious, when it comes to their family matters.
  7. homeshow

    homeshow Monkey++

    the gypsies in memphis steal all the time. they truly are a people without God. i pity them. i just don't let them in.
  8. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Although the counter culture paradigm is interesting (and a bit of an eye opener;as in there are "other ways to live than the "system" in which I was raised).

    The idea of all these people bailing on their debts still doesn' t really sit well.Like those get your "free" powered wheel chair commercials, Somebody is paying for this.
    the author talks about walking away from $350,000...
    I think we'll see alot more of this in the coming decade...
    And who wouldn't like to drop off the radar. .
  9. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++ Site Supporter

    It's one thing to live the Supertramp life which I have done, but there is really no way to completly drop out like he is doing without drawing any undo attention. There will come a point where he is stoped and carded by the authorities, and he will have no ID in this post 9/11 nation. What if his unborne child needs emergency care in the future, and he has no ID, an actual address, or SSN for the child, how fast will the ER call child protective services?

    There is only so much you can do to dropout of this rat race if you are single, but to do this with a family is damn near impossible.
  10. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    I believe Seacowboys has lived an "unconventional" life...What's your take; Sea??
  11. balsaboy

    balsaboy In for a Penny

    I have an idea that the notion of just leaving all your debt isn't going to be as easy as the author thinks. With all the changes in the laws the individual who abandons his debt essentially becomes a criminal. Financial terrorism is now a reality of the state. In other places/times just loosing your job made you a parasite on the state and the sentence was months or years of hard labor; essentially the creation of state sponsored slavery. This was the case in communist Romania.
  12. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I spent 12 years aboard my boat with no physical address other than a convienence mail-box at xyz marina. I used that to get a library card, drivers license, passport, whatever but didn't require bank loans and credit card companies give those things to anyone that will pay them on time.
    I am haveing a harder time now that I own houses and property, establishing who I am. I recently tried to switch my Florida drivers license to Alabama and was refused because they said Tennessee had suspended my license ten years ago and I haven't been to Tennessee for nearly 25 years other than to visit my family at Christmas twice and didn't get any tickets then and hadn't had a Tennessee drivers license for over a decade when they supposedly suspended it? Just said "screw it" I'll keep my Florida license, if I want to buy a pistol it is only a half-hour drive to Pensacola.
  13. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    I renewed my motorcycle endorsement a while back and the nice fat lady behind the dmv counter looked at me real hard and muttered something about "north carolina" had a "hold",but things went through that day; I realized I had claimed "domicile" while at Seymour johnson AFB,Goldsboro NC. In order to get a nc license which is what I had years later when I had a seizure in a mil vehicle in germany (ramstien)I think I was supposed to notify them(
    Nc)... screw them I had one more assignment (bolling afb dc) after "shady "j"....but comes 2009 I wil have to completely renew we'll see what turns up. I hate interacting with the goobermint...
  14. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    THAT is exactly what I was thinking as I read that. Had the same beat and rhythm as Jack had. JC was the first and last of the Beats I really felt aligned with. Oh, I read a lot of Bukowski too.

    I can relate to the true yearnings of freedom of that post. The gypsys will soon be joined by refugees.

    Great note from the field
  15. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Read "RebelFire" by Claire Wolfe and Aaron Zellman. The entire novel is about this certainty and how they dodge it as long as they can.

    Or even "Brave New World" with it's adventures of John Savage. In 1984 the future was with the proles... The downtrodden eventually say ENOUGH and take a walk. Is it easy? NO. Is it comfy? NO, is it legal? NO. is it free? I'd say yes. I would be happy as hell to live my life like Newt Hamsun in "The Wanderers" for the rest of my life here.

    I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling like I'm an Outlaw because of my tendencies and deep rooted beliefs. F-em. I'm going to do what I damn well please from here on out and God Bless the poor .Gov soul who is given my address for a late night knock and rob.

    I really should have stayed offline
  16. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Coffee wired at that hour? [rofllmao] Glad you're back -- [boozingbuddies]
  17. BRONZ

    BRONZ Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

  18. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    Good to see you BRONZ
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