Discussion in 'Survival Communications' started by john316, Sep 11, 2018.

  1. john316

    john316 Monkey++

    What does Google know about me?


    Gabriel Weinberg, CEO & Founder at DuckDuckGo (2008-present)
    Answered Aug 21

    Did you know that unlike searching on DuckDuckGo, when you search on Google, they keep your search history forever? That means they know every search you’ve ever done on Google. That alone is pretty scary, but it’s just the shallow end of the very deep pool of data that they try to collect on people.

    What most people don’t realize is that even if you don’t use any Google products directly, they’re still trying to track as much as they can about you. Google trackers have been found on 75% of the top million websites. This means they're also trying to track most everywhere you go on the internet, trying to slurp up your browsing history!

    Most people also don’t know that Google runs most of the ads you see across the internet and in apps – you know those ones that follow you around everywhere? Yup, that’s Google, too. They aren’t really a search company anymore – they’re a tracking company. They are tracking as much as they can for these annoying and intrusive ads, including recording every time you see them, where you saw them, if you clicked on them, etc.

    But even that’s not all…

    If You Use Google Products

    If you do use Google products, they try to track even more. In addition to tracking everything you’ve ever searched for on Google (e.g. “weird rash”), Google also tracks every video you’ve ever watched on YouTube. Many people actually don’t know that Google owns YouTube; now you know.

    And if you use Android (yeah, Google owns that too), then Google is also usually tracking:

    If you use Gmail, they of course also have all your emails. If you use Google Calendar, they know all your schedule. There’s a pattern here: For all Google products (Hangouts, Music, Drive, etc.), you can expect the same level of tracking; that is, pretty much anything they can track, they will.

    Oh, and if you use Google Home, they also store a live recording of every command you’ve (or anyone else) has ever said to your device! Yes, you heard that right (err… they heard it) – you can check out all the recordings on your Google activity page.

    Essentially, if you allow them to, they’ll track pretty close to, well, everything you do on the internet. In fact, even if you tell them to stop tracking you, Google has been known to not really listen, for example with location history.

    You Become the Product

    Why does Google want all of your information anyway? Simple: as stated, Google isn’t a search company anymore, they’re a tracking company. All of these data points allow Google to build a pretty robust profile about you. In some ways, by keeping such close tabs on everything you do, they, at least in some ways, may know you better than you know yourself.

    And Google uses your personal profile to sell ads, not only on their search engine, but also on over three million other websites and apps. Every time you visit one of these sites or apps, Google is following you around with hyper-targeted ads.

    It’s exploitative. By allowing Google to collect all this info, you are allowing hundreds of thousands of advertisers to bid on serving you ads based on your sensitive personal data. Everyone involved is profiting from your information, except you. You are the product.

    It doesn’t have to be this way. It is entirely possible for a web-based business to be profitable without making you the product – since 2014, DuckDuckGo has been profitable without storing or sharing any personal information on people at all. You can read more about our business model here.

    The Myth of “Nothing to Hide”

    Some may argue that they have “nothing to hide,” so they are not concerned with the amount of information Google has collected and stored on them, but that argument is fundamentally flawed for many reasons.

    Everyone has information they want to keep private: Do you close the door when you go to the bathroom? Privacy is about control over your personal information. You don’t want it in the hands of everyone, and certainly don’t want people profiting on it without your consent or participation.

    In addition, privacy is essential to democratic institutions like voting and everyday situations such as getting medical care and performing financial transactions. Without it, there can be significant harms.

    On an individual level, lack of privacy leads to putting you into a filter bubble, getting manipulated by ads, discrimination, fraud, and identity theft. On a societal level, it can lead to deepened polarization and societal manipulation like we’ve unfortunately been seeing multiply in recent years.

    You Can Live Google Free

    Basically, Google tries to track too much. It’s creepy and simply just more information than one company should have on anyone.

    Thankfully, there are many good ways to reduce your Google footprint, even close to zero! If you are ready to live without Google, we have recommendations for services to replace their suite of products, as well as instructions for clearing your Google search history. It might feel like you are trapped in the Google-verse, but it is possible to break free.

    For starters, just switching the search engine for all your searches goes a long way. After all, you share your most intimate questions with your search engine; at the very least, shouldn’t those be kept private? If you switch to the DuckDuckGo app and extension you will not only make your searches anonymous, but also block Google’s most widespread and invasive trackers as you navigate the web.

    If you’re unfamiliar with DuckDuckGo, we are an Internet privacy company that empowers you to seamlessly take control of your personal information online, without any tradeoffs. We operate a search engine alternative to Google at, and offer a mobile app and desktop browser extension to protect you from Google, Facebook and other trackers, no matter where you go on the Internet.

    We’re also trying to educate users through our blog, social media, and a privacy “crash course” newsletter.
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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Do know where DDG gets its revenue? That blurb looks like a sales pitch, it could be true, but motivation would be nice to know.
  3. john316

    john316 Monkey++

    How does Duck Duck Go make profits?

    Gabriel Weinberg, CEO & Founder at DuckDuckGo (2008-present)

    Answered Jan 24

    It’s a myth that a search engine needs to track you to make money. Most of the money any major search engine makes, including DuckDuckGo, is simply by serving ads based on the keyword you type in. For example, if you type in car you will get a car ad. There is more info on our help pages at Advertising and Affiliates.

    All that tracking Google does is mainly to make money outside of their search engine. Google runs the biggest ad networks on the planet (outside of Google Adwords on search) that serve ads for millions of other sites and apps. They use your data on search, email, browsing, YouTube, maps, etc. to help advertisers hyper-target you and follow you around the Web.

    If you just stick to search to make money, like DuckDuckGo, all of that tracking simply isn’t needed to make money. We have been proudly profitable since 2014, without tracking anyone.
  4. john316

    john316 Monkey++

  5. runswithdogs

    runswithdogs Monkey+++

    I was using go appfor a short time.... very short as I now have a rederect virus on my computer that could only have come with their app ......:cautious:
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  6. apache235

    apache235 Monkey++

    DDG is not as complete as Google in searches, BUT, if it doesn't track I'll take it. I've also heard that FireFox has gone over to the dark side, anyone have info on that?
  7. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    How do you get rid of it or do you still have it?
  8. runswithdogs

    runswithdogs Monkey+++

    Havent figgured out how to get rid of it yet. Only shows up when I am on ebay on this computer. Rederects to a “ your a winner!, just click this dodgy as **** link” type of page, if I hit the back button it takes me back to what I was looking at but then keeps redirecting over and over till I start swearing and close the tab. (Dosent do this on any of the other computers/ipod etc... just the one i had the ddg app on)
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  9. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I have used Firefox for years. It has been in steady decline for a few years. Last year I had to delete from my computer a few times because of issues. I have used Duck Duck Go on my laptop. You are correct, regarding the search results w/ DDG .
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  10. as1mov

    as1mov Monkey

    I think DDG is great, but searching with a view to buying anything, always brings up Amazon and ebay as priorities??
    Is this Amazon and ebay or some sort of deal??
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