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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by OldDude49, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    are you ready to move... or be moved... possibly even forceably... or that is the claim of the author of this article...

    anyone wanna check the accuracy and validity of said claims?

    how's that go? ... trust but verify?

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 - allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

    I suppose there is an argument in favor of such...

    here are some more... with what someone is claiming is an accurate description of the content of said order

    "EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 — allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 — allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 — allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 — allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 — allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 — allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare function

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 – – designates the registration of all persons. Postmaster General to operate a national registration.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 — allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 — allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 — allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 1104 9 — assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 1105 1 — specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 — grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

    EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 — allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of product ion and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. Financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months."


    Click this link to see how that thing in the white house works….our legislature is being pushed aside:

    Executive Orders

    link to the full article... that is not particularly friendly to the o or the Gov... ya might find it worth a read...

    it makes claims about the actual number of executive orders made by previous administrations...

    "Conflate the Mosques with the defense of Islam, acts that afford Muslims special status and executive orders to fight a war with both hands tied behind our backs and you have Islamic math…The more we win the stronger they get.

    During our lifetimes, all Presidents have issued Executive Orders. For various reasons, some have issued more than others. These things will directly affect us all, in years to come.

    Question is: Do YOU care enough to send this, ‘shocking info,’ to people you love?

    Ike – 2 in 8 years
    Kennedy – 4 in 3 years
    LBJ – 4 in 5 years

    Nixon – 1 in 6 years
    Ford – 3 in 2 years
    Carter – 3 in 4 years

    Reagan – 5 in 8 years

    Bush – 3 in 4 years

    Clinton – 15 in 8 years

    George W. Bush – 62 in 8 years

    Obama – 923 in 3 1/2 years! More than 1000 Executive Orders in 6 years… "

    Islamic Math | iPatriot
  2. Legion489

    Legion489 Shining the Light of Truth

    See: UN Agenda 21. It's been talked about before.
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  3. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Whether those EOs are real (I'll assume they are) there are some parts that are NOT within zero's purview or privilege. Congress will get a say. I want to see how many of them survive the election results if Donnie Boy wins.
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  4. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Actually, JFK issued those particular EO's. This report is a hoax to make us look stupid.

    Snopes is known to put on a spin, but I think they are accurate here: President Obama's 923 Executive Orders
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  5. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    excellent! Thanks for the input!
  6. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    Those Executive Orders are real and they amount to nothing less than gunpoint rule.

    However, there is a little fact that those in favor of Executive Orders (the PTB) are careful not to mention.

    The President of the United States is an executive, not a lawmaker. Congress is the lawmaker.

    As an executive the only thing a President can do is give orders. He can do that by word of mouth, day-to-day, and by issuing standing orders--such as directives and Executive Orders.

    However, his orders do not apply to anyone who is not under his command. They very definitely do not apply to American citizens who are a) civilians and b) NOT EMPLOYED by the US Government.

    The President can only make rules for, and give orders to, his lawful employees and (since he is also the Commander in Chief of the Armed Services) soldiers.

    He can run his Presidential mouth all day long, but he doesn't have the legal authority to make a civilian citizen do anything at all.

    WE are not under his command.

    He CAN give illegal and Unconstitutional orders to those under his command, but such orders are properly refused and may not be lawfully carried out.

    When his minions start carrying out illegal and Unconstitutional orders, we the people are empowered to resist them with the use of any necessary degree of force, including lethal force.

    And that's a fact, Jack.

    We are empowered to defend ourselves against the unlawful acts of anyone, including the President and all his minions.

    When "they" announce that "they" are going to arrest someone under the terms of the (unconstitutional) Patriot Act that person (which includes any and every person) is lawfully empowered (according to the SCOTUS) to use any amount of force necessary to prevent that unlawful arrest. And that includes lethal force, and it applies to any and every unlawful arrest.

    (I would quote the decision here, but it's buried deep in my files. It'll take a while to dig it out.)

    Lacking the specific decisions at the moment, I recommend due diligence to those seriously interested in knowing the truth.

    Any Executive Order that violates the law (any law) is null and void, and we do not have to submit to it.
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  7. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

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  8. Dont

    Dont Just another old gray Jarhead Monkey Site Supporter

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  9. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    Plummer v. State is one of the two cases that I have on file. It's one of the two that I was referring to.

    I have another case that ties in with Plummer (Not Bad Elk) that ties in. It may be a State Supreme Court reference from one of the States that allows defense against an unlawful arrest generally, rather than only when in fear of life or great bodily harm.

    Been a while since I looked at them, but I saved them in a special file so they wouldn't get lost.

    Which, of course, is why they are lost at the moment.
  10. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Gotta give a like to a fellow who is as disorganized and forgetful as I am. I knew a gal once upon a time who hid her meds so her various kin and so called friends wouldn't borrow them. Then she would forget where she hid them. Said each day was like Easter. She liked cleaning and poking around here and there as well. Said it was like an easter egg hunt surprise when she found a long lost stash of meds. What the hell do I know? I thought the whole thing was nuts! Speaking of nuts, "NUTS" seems like an appropriate answer along with a one finger salute when they try to enforce one of those BS executive unconstitutional orders. Specially if backed up with a handful of concealed sharpshooters with ARs.
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  11. duane

    duane Monkey++

    In retrospect, most of the greatest events in our nation have occurred as the executive orders are used or abused. Lincoln began the civil war and created the beginnings of the army as an executive action as I remember it but congress later authorized his actions. The major problems with these actions is the existence of 100's of them going back over the years and the ability to selectively enforce them. Think Ruby Ridge, etc. You may be in a perfect legal position, but the executive controls the army, the national law enforcement, and the courts. Being right and in prison or dead is not an optimum solution. The biggest problem with paranoia, ie tin foil hats, is that on a personal level you as an individual may be completely right, the police chief hates your guts and is out to get you, but the average citizen doesn't even notice it.
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  12. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    Unfortunately, the army that usually loses the battle and the war is an army of one. "They" have more than enough cannon fodder to make issues of right vs. wrong utterly moot. That's why we need to be a we when the hammer drops.

    One person has very little power. One million have as much as they need.
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