Favorite FAL Variant

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Conagher, Aug 6, 2005.


  1. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+

    Rhodesian FALs rock...and roll!
     
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  2. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Define what is a “Rhodesian FAL” other than almost any variant (they used lots) with a baby poop paint job ;):D
     
  3. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    You have to have that ugly muzzle contraption that clips on. Looks like a failed project from a high school welding class.

    Works wonders on reducing recoil, but mine is on a .22 conversion so that may help. KIMG1459.
     
  4. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+

    The Rhodesian FAL are usually noted for their "baby poop" paint jobs, lack of carry handles and slings, they frequently had grenade launchers or the Halbrek Device. Some were painted black, had carry handles and slings, and lacked any modification to the barrel. To know if it is a real Rhodie you have to check the serial numbers... and even then you stand a good chance of getting screwed.
     
  5. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Monkey+++ Founding Member

    They also issued British and Australian L1A1s, FN G1 and 50:00 pattern rifles as well as R1s from SA and some Imbels ended up there as well. The Halbek device was not overly common. Slings and carry handles were unit to unit decisions.
     
  6. hot diggity

    hot diggity Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++

    Hi Andy,

    Was it Rhodesia or South Africa that ordered the carry handles broken off?
    (After some accident if I remember correctly)

    Are the Rhodesian butt stocks longer than others, or is that a South Africa thing?
     
  7. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+

    I read that the carry handles were remove from many Rhodesian FALs because a spent shell casing hit the carry handle and into the eye of a Rhodesian soldier during a fire fight. The removal of the carry handles and slings were to reduce weight and noise when on patrol. The grenade launchers were common, as the rifle grenades gave the Rhodesian infantry increased firepower. The Halbrek device was not very common and was usually issued to soldiers trained and designated as automatic riflemen. The grenade launchers and the Halbrek device reduced the Rhodesians need for special heavy weapons units ( mortars, light and heavy machine guns, etc.) in fire fights against lightly armed forces.
     
  8. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Monkey+++ Founding Member

    ....... South Africa ordered the removal of carry handles after a single range incident that saw a case bounce back and hit a troopie is the eye. It was also South Africa that made the long plastic butts for the R1 (and G3). There was no actual Rhodesian FAL production of any kind, they scrounged or were "smuggled" all their rifles and spares. They made the odd small accessory, such as the Halbek, but nothing more significant. If you look at any of the significant photo galleries of Rhodesians in action a Halbek is very rare and FN MAG58s very common. The Grenade sights were standard of the R1 so they bled across the border with the rifles.
     
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  9. hot diggity

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    That odd long butt stock was a bit of detail that I'd always wondered about. There were other long forgotten things besides an ugly paint job that lead me to believe my $60 kit was a South African R1, but I didn't know if the long plastic butt was limited to South Africa. With my build it's a perfect fit.
     
  10. Wildbilly

    Wildbilly Monkey+

    I find myself humming "Rhodesian's Never Die" a lot lately.
     
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  11. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Australia, Britain and Canada also made butts or butt plates in differing lengths to accommodate varying stature. I think the ABC rifles and South Africans were the only FAL varieties that offered differing lengths. The SA R4 production butt was also longer than the standard Galil butt, apparently the Dutch are larger than most and they worked to accommodate this in their R1, R4 and I want to say R2 (G3 in SA use - R3 is a semi only R1 I believe) rifles.
     
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