Flu Shot Dangerous Vaccine Vaccine Court

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  1. john316

    john316 Monkey+++

    Flu Shot Dangerous Vaccine Vaccine Court

    Flu Shot Remains Most Dangerous Vaccine Based on Injuries and Deaths Compensated by Government

    The Department of Justice issues a report on vaccine injuries and deaths every quarter to the Advisory Commission on Childhood Vaccines (Click on “Meeting Book – PDF – 10.8 MB” for September 3rd meeting). There are 211 cases for vaccine injuries and deaths for the period 5/16/2015 through 8/15/2015.

    86 of the settlements were listed in this report, giving the name of the vaccines, the injury, and the amount of time the case was pending before settlement. Three of those settlements were for deaths linked to vaccines, with two deaths related to the flu shot, and one death for the HPV shot. 65 of the 86 settlements were for injuries and deaths due to the flu shot, and the majority of flu shot injuries were for Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS).

    These quarterly reports on vaccine injuries and death settlements from the U.S. vaccine court are seldom, if ever, reported in the mainstream media. We report them here at Health Impact News. Here is the September 3rd, 2015 report:

    Flu Shot Remains Most Dangerous Vaccine Based on Injuries and Deaths Compensated by Government

    Most of the Public is Unaware that there is a Vaccine Court

    In November of 2014 the Government Accounting Office (GAO) issued the first report on America’s “Vaccine Court,” known as the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (NVICP), in almost 15 years. Most citizens of the United States are not even aware that there is something called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, and that if you suffer harm or death due to a vaccine, that you cannot sue the manufacturer of the vaccine, but you must sue the Federal Government and try to obtain compensation from the Vaccine Injury Compensation Trust Fund, which is funded by taxes paid on vaccines.

    This is because Congress gave the pharmaceutical companies immunity against lawsuits for injuries or deaths resulting in vaccines in 1986. Prior to this time, there were so many lawsuits pending against pharmaceutical companies for injuries and deaths due to vaccines, that the pharmaceutical industry basically blackmailed Congress and told them that if they did not grant them legal immunity against the liabilities of vaccines, that they would quit making them. These vaccine products cannot survive in a free market, they are so bad.

    The November 2014 GAO report criticized the government for not making the public more aware that the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program exists, and that there are funds available for vaccine injuries. Therefore, the settlements represented by vaccine injuries and deaths included in the DOJ report probably represent a small fraction of the actual vaccine injuries and deaths occurring in America today.

    Is the Government Trying to Hide Stats Showing Increase in Vaccine Injuries and Deaths?
    The September 3rd, 2015 report published here shows a definite increase in compensations for vaccine injuries from the last report issued on June 4th, 2015, and previous reports before then. You can review previous DOJ reports for vaccine injuries and deaths compensated by the U.S. Government here.

    Investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson, a former CBS Evening News correspondent, recently reported that the government has deleted some vaccine data from their websites.

    She wrote:

    In March, the federal government removed the latest vaccine injury court statistics—more than a year’s worth of data—from one of its publicly reported charts. It was an abrupt departure from the normal practice of updating the figures monthly. Wiping the latest data means the “adjudication” chart on a government website no longer reflects the recent, sharp rise in court victories for plaintiffs who claimed their children were seriously injured or killed by one or more vaccines. Since January of 2014, twice as many victims have won court decisions than the previous eight years combined. In these court decisions, a judge ruled the evidence showed vaccines “more likely than not” caused the plaintiff’s injuries. Also on the rise is the number of vaccine injury cases the government has “conceded”: up 55% in a little over one year. As a result of the recent website changes, neither of these trends is reflected on the current “adjudication” chart.
    Read her full report here:

    Recent Rise in Vaccine Victims’ Court Decisions and Concessions Not Reflected in Revised Government Chart
    Safety of Flu Shots Not Established
    Currently, flu shots are made by multiple drug manufacturers including Flucelvax, FluLaval, Flublok, Fluarix, Afluria, Fluzone, and Fluvirin. Do you know what they all have in common? Each shot listed above states the following on their product insert:

    • Safety and effectiveness have not been established in pregnant women or nursing mothers.”

    • “…has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential.”
    Regarding the safety and effectiveness of each vaccine in regards to children, each insert tells a different story. If you are deciding to give a flu shot to your child this year, it is important to understand the safety research, or lack of, for their specific shot.

    • Flubok: “Safety and effectiveness in children 3 years to less than 18 years of age have not been established.”

    • Flucelvax: “Safety and effectiveness have not been established in children less than 18 years of age.”

    • Fluzone: “Safety and effectiveness in children below the age of 6 months have not been established.”

    • Fluvirin: “The safety and immunogenicity have not been established in children under 4 years of age.”

    • FluLaval: “Safety and effectiveness in children younger than 3 years have not been established.”

    • Afluria: “…not approved for use in children less than 5 years of age.”

    • Fluarix: “…not approved for use in children younger than 3 years.”

    • Fluvirin: “The safety and immunogenicity have not been established in children under 4 years of age.”
    Safety data and effectiveness for the flu shots and many others are currently unknown and still being tracked as described in each insert category listed above. Any medical professional that insists on injecting you without full disclosure of these facts could face a suspension or loss of their license to practice.

    In the video below, Dr. Mark Geier explains the fraud behind the flu vaccine. Dr. Geier is NOT anti-vaccine. He is an M.D. and has a PhD in genetics. He spent 10 years working at the National Institute of Health, and was a professor at Johns Hopkins University as a geneticist. He is also the author of over 150 peer-reviewed publications.

    He worked on vaccine safety and efficacy for more than 30 years. He was one of four scientists that worked to replace the DTP vaccine, a vaccine that caused every child to become sick with a high fever at the time of vaccination, with the DTaP vaccine, which is a more purified vaccine and causes illness due to fever in only 3% of those vaccinated.

    In the video above, he explains that the flu shot causes Guillain-Barré Syndrome, and that the flu shot is not very effective in preventing the flu. He also explains that the CDC does not follow the law for vaccines in requiring long-term safety testing for the influenza vaccine like they do with other vaccines, as it is impossible to test a vaccine that changes every year. So the flu vaccine is basically an experimental vaccine that they want to give out to 300 million people every year. There are also no studies showing the safety of giving the flu vaccine to the same person every single year. However, Dr. Geier points out that the CDC is in the business of distributing flu vaccines, because they represent 300 million doses per year, whereas all the childhood vaccines together only number 20 million.

    Dr. Geier goes on to explain that flu is “the wrong thing to vaccinate against” because you have to keep re-vaccinating against it every year, unlike childhood infectious diseases, such as smallpox, that are only vaccinated for once. Dr. Geier points out how ridiculous it is spend billions of dollars on a vaccine that might, at its best, save about 50 lives a year, when there are far more serious problems causing death that are more worthy of that kind of expenditure.

    Be informed before you vaccinate, particularly the annual flu vaccine! In general, medical professionals and the federal government cannot be trusted, as they present the extremist position that all vaccines are safe, and they are not a credible source due to their conflicts of interest.

    Medical Doctors Opposed to Forced Vaccinations – Should Their Views be Silenced?

    eBook – Available for immediate download.

    One of the biggest myths being propagated in the compliant mainstream media today is that doctors are either pro-vaccine or anti-vaccine, and that the anti-vaccine doctors are all “quacks.”

    However, nothing could be further from the truth in the vaccine debate. Doctors are not unified at all on their positions regarding “the science” of vaccines, nor are they unified in the position of removing informed consent to a medical procedure like vaccines.

    The two most extreme positions are those doctors who are 100% against vaccines and do not administer them at all, and those doctors that believe that ALL vaccines are safe and effective for ALL people, ALL the time, by force if necessary.

    Very few doctors fall into either of these two extremist positions, and yet it is the extreme pro-vaccine position that is presented by the U.S. Government and mainstream media as being the dominant position of the medical field.

    In between these two extreme views, however, is where the vast majority of doctors practicing today would probably categorize their position. Many doctors who consider themselves “pro-vaccine,” for example, do not believe that every single vaccine is appropriate for every single individual.

    Many doctors recommend a “delayed” vaccine schedule for some patients, and not always the recommended one-size-fits-all CDC childhood schedule. Other doctors choose to recommend vaccines based on the actual science and merit of each vaccine, recommending some, while determining that others are not worth the risk for children, such as the suspect seasonal flu shot.

    These doctors who do not hold extreme positions would be opposed to government-mandated vaccinations and the removal of all parental exemptions.

    In this eBook, I am going to summarize the many doctors today who do not take the most extremist pro-vaccine position, which is probably not held by very many doctors at all, in spite of what the pharmaceutical industry, the federal government, and the mainstream media would like the public to believe.

    Medical Doctors Opposed to Forced Vaccinations – Should Their Views be Silenced?
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  2. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    The 1918 flu pandemic killed a few million people world wide.
    It killed way more people that world war 1 fighting.
    So the flu vaccine danger doesn't even register as anything compared to the flu rampaging unchecked.
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  3. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    True, but the only difference being one was naturally occurring, and the other is entirely man made. For profit.
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  4. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Prevention is best and building up one''s own immune system + diet and exercise .
    The weak are about to be washed away.
    Some by modern medicine and some by their own doing/neglect .
    Alternative medicines work in those that use them, and take good care of them selves otherwise .
    I do not support agenda 21 but it seems it is here to stay like it or not .
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  5. T. Riley

    T. Riley Monkey+++

    How many flu shots are given each year?
    How many people actually die each year as a result of taking the flu shot?
    What percent of the people who died from flu every year were unvaccinated?

    Given that info any reasonable person should be able to make up their own mind about getting one.

    I go with the odds and get a shot every year, and it's free, to me. Nobody makes me.
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  6. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Dr Mark Geier seems to have very impressive credentials.....but absent from the puff piece is the fact that Dr Mark Geier:

    Had been disciplined by the Medical Boards of Illinois and Missouri,
    Has had his medical license to practice medicine suspended indefinitely in Illinois,
    Has had his medical license in Maryland revoked,
    and was declared ineligible to reapply for reinstatement of his Illinois license for seven years.
    Autism doctor loses license in Illinois, Missouri
    Indeed, Dr Geier is not anti-vaccine.....just that his preferred vaccination modality in the past was ....Lupron :rolleyes:

    Chemical castration for autism: After three years, the mainstream media finally notices

    Why not just castrate them? (Part 5) The Geiers’ “Lupron protocol” metastasizes

    But what the hey...some Anti-Vaxers don't seem too fussy about whom they use to promote their junk science schtick.

    When I read articles like the one in the OP I am reminded of Tim Minchin's song, 'Storm' Tim Minchin – Storm | Genius

    I highly recommend that Tim's live performance of 'Storm' on Youtube, or better still, Tim MInchin's 'Storm the Animated Movie', also available from Youtube.....definitely NSFW. (y)
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2018
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  7. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    When teotwawki and all the diseases no one has really seen much of for let's says 100 years make a come back the anti vacciners who survive initial teotwawki die off will start dropping like flies when the old school diseases make a come back.

    Oh the irony. A B/A prepper survives teotwawki, slaughtered hordes of zombies and then dies from measles lol.

    Getting vaccinations is prepping.
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  8. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    And yet there at a countless number of folk that survive 100 years with no vaccines .
    I have witnessed many homes that were over antibacterial and they forever fought issues because they never let their bodies develop their own natural immunities .
    Any creature forced to live in a gilded cage will die prematurely the second it's environment is compromised to it's original environment.
    Even old timers were smart enough to blend their cattle with other cattle to strengthen the breed and weed out the weak.
    Sadly most people think last about their offspring and first about them self.
    And there are some that should not , in human terms, breed due to obvious health issues their off spring will suffer with .
    But there is a war over this.
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  9. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    The same corporations who poison people for profit and rake in hundreds of trillions annually, also provide your vaccines.
    Sick people are profitable, who knew?

    I don't take flu "vaccines", and I am healthy. Think about it.
    Exercise, eat healthy, detoxify, drink clean water.
  10. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Which is countered by the anecdotal evidence of healthy people who hadn't taken a flu vaccine and experienced ill health due to contracting influenza.


    A more convincing argument might be made from population studies, comparing the incidence of infection between vaccinated and unvaccinated subjects, controlling for eating healthily, detoxifying, drinking clean water and having saunas. ;)

    Of the many millions of unvaccinated dead 1918 Influenza pandemic victims, the majority would not all have lacked exercise, lacked healthy nutrition, nor drank unwholesome water....detox modalities Detox Diets & Cleansing: Facts & Fallacies of course not being a worldwide fad in 1918, as it has become today with certain segments of society.

    It should be noted that the 1918 Influenza pandemic was most susceptible to young and healthy adults.

    1918 Influenza Pandemic Inside the Swift, Deadly History of the Spanish Flu Pandemic

    One may speculate on how many of the lives of the some 50 million humans who died in 1918 might have been saved had a suitable flu vaccine been available at that time, and had there also been sufficient doses, and the means of effectively distributing them in a timely manner. As it is a lot of human potential died during that epidemic...a century ago.
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2018
  11. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    So, Hows the American made flu vaccine working out in Europe and lets include Australia?
  12. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I understand that Australia manufactures its own flu vaccines...though the companies that do so, are multinational companies.

    For more information on flu vaccination in an Australian context....https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/2018-seasonal-influenza-vaccines Some shortages have been reported concerning some flu vaccine stocks. Flu vaccine: 800,000 new doses ordered to meet national shortage i am presently examing options for regular sauna treatments. ;)
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  13. Grandpa Patch

    Grandpa Patch Monkey+

    GEORGE CARLIN: He addressed this very type of issue years ago during one of his comedy routines. I remember exactly how it went, but basically he was joking about how everyone was "suddenly on a health kick" and that they shouldn't eat this or that or drink this or that and on and on. He mention a baby being born and raised in this "clean" dietary environment and how the kid would fall over dead just from eating a Snickers candy bar. His punch line to the whole rant was that he was eating all the junk food he could get his hands on so that his body would build up a resistance to "unhealthy" foods.

    Sorry for the side track, Carlin's routine popped into my head while reading this thread.
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  14. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Disease spreads through ignorant heath practices .
    When explorers went to Alaska they brought with them certain strains of virus that totally wiped out the tribes they visited .
    People can be a carrier and not even know it .If feeling crummy feels normal after a while , you don't recognize any thing wrong.
    Though a groups immunities might be intact , some one foreign untouched might be completely vulnerable.
    This is one reason strangers were isolated that came into camps, and a good practice post SHTF .
    If you are going to have a community these issues need to be addressed .
    If some one is dependent on modern medicine , that cannot be addressed with alternative means this becomes a liability .
    It would be prudent to have the ability to have some form of isolation both for medical and moral issues as necessary .
    Mental illness is a serious pertinent issue as well, and probably subject for another thread of it's own.
    If one whom is in charge does not know how to diagnose people, they can endanger the whole group.
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  15. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Fine, I deserved that. Way to go when comparing the equivalent of third world lifestyle and ignorance more than 100 years ago to today's life. I will get away with all of this in the end, you pesky kids and your sneaky, meddling dog won't get the last laugh, you'll see!

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  16. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    No, not comparing a third world lifestyle....with today's life. I am comparing the medical technology of 100 years ago, and the medical technology of today...... they lacked modern anti-viral medical technology, we don't. Biologically, humanity was not significantly different then, and our bodies respond to attack by the influenza virus much the same today, as human bodies did then. The difference is that human bodies today can be afforded a greater probability of survival and protection against ill effect by being vaccinated, than without. Yes, there is a small probability of contraindication associated with adverse reactions by some, but for some segments of the population, the risk is greater from becoming infected without the protection that vaccination affords.

    A virus that killed 50 million of the human population in 1918 did not discriminate between social class, wealth, or lifestyle. People did not contract the disease because they were ignorant, had poor nutrition, were unsanitary, lacked regular access to a sauna or didn't follow a regimen of detox.....they got infected because the virus was introduced to them via another person who was infectious. Survival during that pandemic was a crapshoot; in that particular probabilistic dice rolling, the young and healthy were at a greater risk of crapping out than the usual vulnerable population segments.

    I'm not sure what relevance The TRumpster and Scooby Doo have to the discussion, except as amusing distraction. :unsure:


    On an individual level, hygiene practices, barrier nursing techniques, isolation, personal ppe, and contact surface sanitation are just important today as they would have been then.

    On a community level, public policy and public health institutions have an important impact on limiting the consequences of a pandemic outbreak. I commend everyone to view the following journal article. Lessons Learned from the 1918–1919 Influenza Pandemic in Minneapolis and St. Paul, Minnesota

    (emphasis chello)
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2018
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  17. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Okay Chello old Pad-nah,Is it possible for the human body to build up a natural resistance to the old Flu with-out the vaccine?
  18. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Some may have a natural resistance to influenza viruses, but there is no way of knowing the degree to which one may have a resistance to a particular influenza virus. The other issue is that the virus evolves and changes subtly to evade immunity responses, which is why each year the vaccination may also change. There are a variety of Influenza virus sub-types, and it is probably not feasible to provide an inoculation that protects against absolutely every influenza sub-type, so it is usually manufactured to protect the two or three most prevalent sub-types expected each flu season.
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  19. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Seem's like the last time I suspect I had the flu it wasn't diddle squat compared to the previous 2 bouts, TK's
  20. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Over my lifetime I have had the flu a number of times...in my late 20's caught a very virulent strain...i think i would have preferred dying. Now, i get the annual recommended inocculation. I neglected doing so this year...caught it...and am coughing like a consumptive...without the bloody sputum though. :eek:

    This year's isn't the worst I have experienced, but no fun either. It has been lingering for a week so far...first couple of days were the worst.
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