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Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Tango3, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    101minute google video depicting the loss of basic civil rights in Britain:

    Taking Liberties (Since 1997)
    Good fer amuricans to watch too...
  2. toemag

    toemag Monkey++


    What a find, I'm really glad that I have a late start this morning and was able to watch that. It would appear that things have gotten a lot worse than I initially thought that they would, or ever could.

    Land of hope and.............

  3. LondonCalling

    LondonCalling Monkey++

    Double wow!!
    I was even amazed at the amout we had lost!!

    Top-find Tango3
  4. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Just spreading the warmth...have a great ( "magna carta-less"day) guys :)
  5. toemag

    toemag Monkey++

    I posted the link on a few other websites and feel like a shit, because I must have ruined a few people's days, and I'm talking about Brits that I have known since I was in the Army that I really would go the extra mile for.

    The extradition thing that Mr Blunket signed was a one way thing, which means that any IRA terrorists that are in the US cannot be extradited to the UK to face charges???

    The phrase British Citizen came about when we were promoted from Subject's, I was just wondering how the correct term is today?

    This Ex-patriot is really rather glad that he got out of it all.

  6. LondonCalling

    LondonCalling Monkey++

    hahahah nice one mate!

    Nah them days are gone.

    British subject sounds better, dont you agree?
    The correct term today....is MUG / FOOL / IDIOT
    To be a British Citizen nowdays, you only have to turn up at Dover, make out you can only speak a little ENGLISH, that being:
    No money - need money
    no house - need house

    They have a comfy little mini-bus that will ferry you to UK Border Agency in croydon, where you will be met by an interpretor of your choice?
    Given free food / clothes / meals.
    You will be asked ..where are you from?
    your reply will be "anywhere" that you know the UK wont send you back to because of XXXXXXXXX fill the blanks in?

    You will be placed on the aslyum register, but of course you will NOT have any paperwork on you so the immgration office can never determine, how old you are, what nationality you are, who you are, the list is endless mate, after a brief stay in a hostel, you will be given keys to your own council / H.A. house, money, and if you play the "ahhh all my family i need to contact them , they here somewhere" card, you may even get a free mobile phone so you can stay in contact, play ya cards right and you will also be given a "hotline" number......direct payments from the benefits office...TRUE!!!!

    Britain at its best......hahahahahahah[BSf]
  7. toemag

    toemag Monkey++

  8. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    Hmmmm, you did rattle a few cages..interesting reading:


    The part about police separating themselves from the public( by wearing SS"tacticool" equipment) is an excelant observation..
    Oh great,now MI6 will be hunting down my isp( after they pin you down,link analysis and all)...
  9. toemag

    toemag Monkey++


    a real [cow].

  10. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    Don't think that our .gov doesn't watch what happens in Britain. What happens there is soon to be implemented here.
    I had a couple of articles about Big Brother in Britain in a newsletter today.

    ‘Big Brother’ database for phones and e-mails

    A massive government database holding details of every phone call, e-mail and time spent on the internet by the public is being planned as part of the fight against crime and terrorism. Internet service providers (ISPs) and telecoms companies would hand over the records to the Home Office under plans put forward by officials.

    The information would be held for at least 12 months and the police and security services would be able to access it if given permission from the courts.

    The proposal will raise further alarm about a "Big Brother" society, as it follows plans for vast databases for the ID cards scheme and NHS patients. There will also be concern about the ability of the Government to manage a system holding billions of records. About 57 billion text messages were sent in Britain last year, while an estimated 3 billion e-mails are sent every day.

    Home Office officials have discussed the option of the national database with telecommunications companies and ISPs as part of preparations for a data communications Bill to be in November’s Queen’s Speech. But the plan has not been sent to ministers yet.

    Industry sources gave warning that a single database would be at greater risk of attack and abuse.

    Jonathan Bamford, the assistant Information Commissioner, said: "This would give us serious concerns and may well be a step too far. We are not aware of any justification for the State to hold every UK citizen’s phone and internet records. We have real doubts that such a measure can be justified, or is proportionate or desirable. We have warned before that we are sleepwalking into a surveillance society. Holding large collections of data is always risky - the more data that is collected and stored, the bigger the problem when the data is lost, traded or stolen."

    Terror law turns thousands of council officials into spies

    Thousands of middle managers in local councils are being authorised to spy on people suspected of petty offences using powers designed to prevent crime and terrorism.

    Even junior council officials are being allowed to initiate surveillance operations in what privacy campaigners likened to Eastern bloc police tactics.

    The Home Office is expected to be urged by the Commons Home Affairs select committee to issue guidelines to councils on the type of operations in which surveillance can be used.

    Amid increasing concern in Parliament that the UK is slowly becoming a surveillance society, the committee has looked at the operation of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (Ripa), which some MPs say is being misused to focus on petty crime rather than serious offending.

    Keith Vaz, chairman of the Commons Home Affairs select committee, told The Times: "I am personally shocked by the numbers involved in surveillance by the local authorities. It is important we make sure there is proper accountability and transparency in the way this operates." The committee, which has concluded an investigation into the surveillance society and is to publish its report in eight days’ time, is understood to have been concerned at the lack of guidance from central government to local authorities on how powers under the Act should be used.

    Councils are increasingly allowing anyone of a "service manager" grade rather than high-ranking officials with a legal background to authorise surveillance operations. Relatively junior council officials are giving permission for operations to spy on people, their homes, obtain their telephone records and discover who they are e-mailing.

    "A lot of councils are making the proactive decision to use these powers more," a spokesman for Lacors, the central body that oversees local authorities, said.
  11. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    So frustrating, you just want to grab these lawmakers by the "short hairs"give em a good shake and ask" Just How do you expect the public to react to all this control?
    "They won't bat an eye; its for their own safety..."
    "people will get angry and resist"
    "We'll stop them...
    Silly bureacrats...
  12. toemag

    toemag Monkey++

    Hence the birth of the new Stasi, oops there I go again, getting carried away, just before I'm interned for being a public nuisance, for as long as it takes them to reprogram me. Didn't the Stasi people end up going to jail for crimes against humanity????

    Some time's I get that distinctive feeling that I don't belong here any more.

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