there was a fuel cell on guberment auction but its not there now. i couldn't get enough info on it to tell what it did. some of that stuff gets bid up to retarded prices and some, like the used solar panels are just old crap. i still have alot to learn about fuel cells and i tend to think about using hydrogen in ice. are you saying you could strip hydrogen from natural gas like you use at your home? never heard of that, interesting idea though. there is a bunch of nat gas up here,,,, a refiner recently got fined for flaring it. just burning it off to get rid of it.
Right now it's in experimental / research phase and are pretty small scale like under 2KW it's called Solid Oxide Fuel Cell and uses a chemical reaction to strip off the carbon. At this size it's like 15 - 30x more expensive than a comparable gasoline powered generator. When it gets up to like 10Kw and is like 3-5x more expensive i'll eye it harder.
A guy in NC when I was a teen hoisted a 7'x10'x4' piece of granite up 50' using a geared water wheel, and then used the weight and gravity to drive a DC motor converted to a generator. I was chasing other things back then so I don't know specifics except seeing it one time. Impressive looking with 5 telephone poles bundled on each side and a damn big scary rock hanging between them.
Read my post more carefully, my hydrogen is being made free and burned directly in an ICE. No fuel cells involved, no electric battery storage, and no Nissan Leafs harmed. The Hydrogen powered ICE would draw O from the atmosphere, and all of the O produced could be sold to hospitals in a few years to give to people who took the jab.
Hydrogen in an internal combustion engine is absolutely terrible. The biggest problem for hydrogen powered ICE is range, fuel cells cars have the same problem but they make better use of the hydrogen. Hydrogen wants to explode not burn so an ice has to run a rich mixture of hydrogen to air, compounding the lack of storage. Since ice are heat engines you end up replacing gasoline BTUs with hydrogen, 2kg of hydrogen replaces 1 gallon of gasoline. So you're looking at 10 to 20 miles per kg of hydrogen. If all of a sudden humanity is able to make hydrogen the cheapest fuel then maybe. The chemical industry and the petroleum industry have both been looking for a cheaper way to get hydrogen for at least 90 years so we already have the easiest cheapest way to get hydrogen with current technology. One of the things I've heard is "no one mass produces hydrogen" and "it will get cheaper" the US alone makes at least 10 million pounds of hydrogen per year now. If that's not mass production then I don't know what is. That's like saying cheese will get cheaper when it's starts being made inside large factories..... Some completely new technology would have to be discovered to make hydrogen cheaper than what we currently have.
In Japan they already had those when I was there like 20 years ago. They burned k1 kerosene. I'm not sure what the point of them was.
It's normal for used panels that are still perfectly serviceable to go for 20 to 30 cents a watt. When I'm talking about free electricity, that's what I'm talking about. Used panels. Not news ones. If I can help it I'll never buy another new solar panel ever again. Last used panels I bought had 70 to 80% remaining life, were 300w, 72cell with 4mm glass (3mm is normal) for like $78 each and had them shipped to me for a total of about $94 each, including tax. Under a hundred dollars for a 300w panel is about as close to free electricity to anything I've ever seen. Other notes I used them on "60 cell" inverters. I figured the additional 6 volts provided by being 12 cells bigger would be off set by the panels age. It would seem I was correct. An old 72cell puts off close enough the same voltage as a new 60cell to make a 60 cell grid tie inverter work.
i figured since cost is not a factor to them they up graded to more efficient panels. i was really disapointed in the cina panels i got 12 years ago. they claimed 18v 10@ 100 watts and i got 18v 2@ from them. i tried to return them and wound up getting them free. that is all i have to compare too. what do you think of these? same company but clearly different tec. some times you get a real deal,,,,some times not so much. https://www.allsurplus.com/en/asset/42542/7647 https://www.allsurplus.com/en/asset/42541/7647
2 amp and cheap Chinese panels? They're probably poly crystaline. They cheap, efficiency sucks but they'll put out power on a cloudy day. I've heard bp panels are good. Being in ak you're limited by whats there. I'd say you can't go wrong.
"4 (8) cylinders", "four cylinder blocks, each containing two cylinder bores with a common combustion chamber" that ain't no radial like I was thinking of
