Full spectrum operations in the homeland : A "Vision" of the future.

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by TwoCrows, Aug 9, 2012.


  1. TwoCrows

    TwoCrows Monkey+

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  2. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Nice article and I do hope they prepare according to their script. A couple obvious flaws in the "plan". First they assume this only happens in one maybe two cities or towns.Second they assume the whole military will follow those orders to fire on citizens(read some of the comments by current and ex military).Third they seem to put little emphasis on what the rest of the nation especially rural and small town citizens are going to be doing while this takes place.Yes I know they pulled off Waco and Ruby Ridge but there was a big difference in mindset of the population and the knowledge of how the government is treating a majority of it's citizens. The mindset(and equipment)of a large percentage of us no longer think of big brother as a "good" thing.Yep let them manufacture a reason to put this in effect and there will be change in government and after the hangings the constitution and certainly the tenth amendment will return to the fore. If we can't vote out this kind of lowlife then the constitution gives us other means. They can try to twist it around to their advantage but in the end it will just leave them "twisting in the wind". Of course this is just one Oldawg's opinion.YMMV.
     
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  3. wrc223

    wrc223 Monkey+

    I know I sound like a broken record but facts are facts. While I fully support the men and women of our armed forces and if you truly let them loose to do what they are capable of, there is no doubt that with the training and equipment, they would be victorious. Thing is, politicians and the Generals that kiss their ass will be running it, not the troops that know what they are doing. Also, lets face it, we have an all volunteer force. These men and women joined the US armed forces because they believe in America. They decided they wouldnt just say they were Americans, they were gonna lace up a pair of boots and fight for America and all it stands for. Invading the homeland would go against everything we are as a Nation. A swarm would develop and the entire world would destabilize if the US military turned inward and invaded it's homeland. Everything would collapse if American troops started marching down main st. USA. Diplomatic meltdowns, financial meltdowns, a trade meltdown, worldwide food shortages resulting in starvation, and on, and on.
    That being said, any politician stupid enough to actually try this stunt would be in for a nightmare. Does anyone, for one single second, think that any scumbag insurgent in the middle of the sandbox has more capability than people here in the US? I can look out my back window and see more capability and potential than some dirtbag from Afghanistan sees in a lifetime. Combine that with the MASSIVE number of former troops turned Patriots that defected with all kinds of goodies to hand out, you have a recipe for a whole lot of tree waterin!!;) Yeah, there will be those that follow orders but there will be a whole bunch that will follow their oath.
     
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  4. TwoCrows

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  5. TwoCrows

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  6. wrc223

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    I bet it would slow them down a wee bit when they get a taste of a Patriot insurgency.
     
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  7. TwoCrows

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    Some "good" news in this:

    The Pentagon Abides: Martial Incompetence and the Extinction of America by Bill Buppert

    http://zerogov.com/?p=2761

    Says that the US military is not capable of sustaining a long term war.
     
  8. TwoCrows

    TwoCrows Monkey+

    Another blog mentioned the dependency on the government that the military personnel have.

    How many soldiers will let their wives and children starve rather than obey illegal orders ?

    What percentage will hold to their oath ?

    If it was not questionable then why does the Oathkeepers group even exist ?
     
  9. wrc223

    wrc223 Monkey+

    Waging war on American citizens would completely bankrupt the Government. As soon as wives and children started starving even though they are obeying illegal orders, they will quickly start dropping from ranks.
    I bet more soldiers will hold to their oath than the politicians that command them will.
     
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  10. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    The people who are pulling the strings forget that these soldiers aren't robots...they have friends/family that might happen to appreciate the Constitution.

    In any event, the .gov will have to severely demonize us before they can even begin this. This will be your sign that this is about to occur.
     
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  11. wrc223

    wrc223 Monkey+

    Will have to? You mean they aint started yet?
     
  12. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    I appreciate the sentiment and agree--equating us with "terrorists" is very clear, but, I'm talking about something really bad and on a continuing basis. I'm just basing this statement on historical events where the govt. got tired of the watchdogs and just got rid of them.
     
  13. wrc223

    wrc223 Monkey+

    You are waiting for a smoking gun but there is a problem with waiting for a smoking gun. By the time it's smokin...it's already been fired!!
     
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  14. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    I am well aware that the government lies and conceals the truth when it serves their purposes to do so. Can you provide proven examples of the high lighted portion of your quoted post?
     
  15. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Not at all.
     
  16. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    More fuel for the fire of Freedom and Liberty. Seems appropriate for this thread instead of starting a new one.
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    America’s Newest Vaccination

    August 13, 2012 by Bob Livingston
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    UPI FILE​
    In 2006, Louisiana National Guard troops took to the streets of New Orleans to stem rising crime in the area, which had begun to repopulate after Hurricane Katrina flooded more than 80 percent of the city in 2005.​
    In medicine under the germ theory of disease, vaccinations are supposed to provide immunity by introducing the disease to the body in small doses, allowing the body to build up its “germ-fighting” abilities. Of course, this is not so, as I pointed out last week.
    But that theory is now being employed on Americans in another way that has nothing to do with medicine and everything to do with control. Americans are being “vaccinated” into acceptance of martial law and military rule.
    Military vehicles from the U.S. Army Reserve patrolling the streets of Sheboygan County in Wisconsin that began Aug. 5 and will continue through Aug. 17 are part of a “training exercise,” according to Captain William Geddes of the 200th Military Police Command at Fort Mead, Md. But those soldiers have already “trained” in the use of the M117 Armored Security Vehicles in Afghanistan. So the training is more to train the American public.
    Geddes said the U.S. Army Reserve wanted to alert to the public — but apparently not those in local government — ahead of the training so they wouldn’t be alarmed when a pack of heavily armored military vehicles is driving around.
    Remember, there is nothing to see here. Just move along.
    This is just the latest in a series of ongoing violations of the Posse Comitatus Act, which is supposed to prevent the military from engaging in domestic law enforcement activities. Recent “vaccinations” include:
    Their frequency is increasing.
    Similarly, local police departments are becoming increasingly militarized and the Department of Homeland Security is purchasing more and more military-grade weapons, ammunition and hardware.
    On Jan. 1, President Barack Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act, which legalized the indefinite detention of Americans and suspended habeas corpus. And although Federal Judge Katherine Forrest issued a preliminary injunction in May that prevented the Obama Administration from exercising the indefinite detention authority, that injunction has been appealed by the Obama Administration — a fact ignored by the mainstream media.
    The USA PATRIOT Act, passed in the aftermath of the false flag 9/11 attacks, (see also Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth) essentially stripped Americans of their 4th and much of their 1nd Amendment rights. While it was proposed by George W. Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress, it was approved by both Republicans and Democrats. It has since been reauthorized three times — again by both Republicans and Democrats.
    Americans can now be assassinated by the President on a whim. Unemployment has been above 8 percent for 42 months. Gas prices are rising again. Food prices worldwide are rising and food shortages are a real possibility, thanks to excessive heat and drought conditions across the United States.
    Welfare is the only thing staving off mass riots and the complete breakdown of law and order. There are now more than 100 million Americans — or almost a third of the U.S. populationreceiving some sort of Federal welfare. More than 54 million Americans are on Medicaid, and more than 45 million Americans are on food stamps.
    Social Security recipients who have defaulted on student loans are having their Social Security checks docked. Their retirement and pension funds are stagnant at best. The Federal Reserve has kept interest rates at near zero for more than four years. This is a war on and destruction of American savers and retirees. Once these retirees begin seeing cuts to their Social Security checks and trying to buy more expensive food, gas and medicine with less money, something will have to give.
    Clearly, the stage is being set for the imposition of martial law. The government is using false flag mass shootings to grease the skids for gun confiscation, the threat of homegrown terror attacks to overturn Posse Comitatus once and for all and false flag FBI-orchestrated terror threats to keep the fear factor high.
    The Founding Fathers feared a standing army as much as they feared anything that could take away liberties. That’s the main purpose behind the 2nd Amendment.
    The collapse — or what I call the Great Reset — is coming. The elites are preparing for it by stocking up on weapons and inoculating Americans into acceptance of military rule.
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    check out the link and some of the comments.
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    http://personalliberty.com/2012/08/13/americas-newest-vaccination/?eiid=
     
  17. sgt peppersass

    sgt peppersass Monkey+

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  18. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    And they mis-spelled Worcester. Credible reporting? I do not doubt that it happened, not at all. Sure did show poor judgement not getting the word out ahead of time. (Ever notice that sheep will panic at a sneeze, much less an Apache.)
     
  19. sgt peppersass

    sgt peppersass Monkey+

    haha ya they called it "worchester", but even the Worcester T&G reported the same thing and the comments on the news was to what we have been saying, its good to know they all arent sheep. Even though sheep get scared easy, at least they are reconizing that something smells funny in the air.
     
  20. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    A majority are automatons, and will follow orders without question. Don't keep your head in the sand and believe that they won't. Anyone that was in New Orleans after Katrina knows better.
    Sure, a few will desert but most will simply follow orders; it is just a mission to them. Our all volunteer army has a significant portion that are there only because it is a job. There is some honor left in the military, maybe a lot but you have to remember how this is being sold to them; we are the enemy; the insurgent.
     
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