Yeah, I can already see that I have much more to learn. I knew some old hams in the small town where I spent about 15 years who it seemed could whip up antennas from leftover copper tubing and some scrap pieces of window screen. Don't remember exactly what they used, but these guys were pretty amazing. Well, going for my upgrade from Technician to General on Monday evening 11 Mar. If I don't make it, I won't utter a peep until subsequent retests result in success. A general license is in my future.