Got A Gun at Home?

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Yard Dart, May 19, 2016.

  1. Yes.

  2. No.

  3. Not sure..... gave him the finger and asked to get my issue looked at vs talking.

  4. Abstain from answering anything.... Molon Labe!!!

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  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator


    I went to the doctor this morning – nothing urgent, just a checkup for a mid-40s guy who hasn’t been to the doctor in years, but when they gave me that ubiquitous survey about my lifestyle (Do you smoke? How often do you drink?), I was looking for one particular question:

    Do you own a gun in your home?

    Doctors are increasingly asking this question, and conservative lawmakers are trying to stop them.

    In Florida, Gov. Rick Scott signed a law in 2011 banning doctors from asking about firearms in their patients’ lives, The Washington Post is reporting.

    But doctors still think this is a great idea … you know, to protect you from yourself. In a new study, they said that no law should stop them from asking about guns:

    “Firearm violence is an important health problem, and most physicians agree that they should help prevent that violence,” wrote Garen J. Wintemute, a public health expert at the University of California Davis and co-author of the paper, in an email to The Washington Post. In the literature review, which doubles as a call-to-arms, the authors conclude it is neither illegal nor unreasonable to ask patients about gun safety.

    “No federal or state law prohibits doctors from asking about firearms, counseling about their use, and — when there is imminent risk of harm — disclosing information to others who can help,” Wintemute said. Several states have mulled statutes similar to Florida’s, but none of the proposed bills have passed.

    “Physicians seek to prevent important health problems at the individual and population levels,” Wintemute and his colleagues write. “They inquire and counsel—routinely in some cases, selectively in others—about a wide range of health-related behaviors and conditions. In certain circumstances, they disclose otherwise confidential information to third parties to limit the risk an affected person poses to others. Physicians generally do not do well at firearm related injury prevention, however. They ask infrequently about firearms and counsel poorly, if at all, though they are aware that the high lethality of firearms makes prevention efforts particularly important.”

    These doctors claim genuine concern about their patients – and that’s probably true. White men who show signs of depression are are at a high risk to commit suicide with a gun, statistically speaking. And simply being forced to confess you keep loaded guns lying around your house within reach of your young children might be enough to convince someone to lock up the guns.

    But that’s not the point. The point is that in a political and cultural environment that is increasingly hostile to the Second Amendment and law-abiding gun owners, telling anyone outside your immediate family that you are armed is a risk. It’s a risk because that information will go on your medical record and if they don’t already, the feds will soon have access to all your medical records.

    And it’s only a small step until one day when liberals control all the levers of government and can impose mandatory gun registration or confiscation.

    And you’d better believe they’ll use all resources available to them to find out who owns the guns so you may be disarmed. Quickly and without incident.

    So what do you do when your doctor asks if you have a gun in the home? Jazz Shaw, writing for HotAir, has a good idea: Lie.

    Don’t tell them you do have a gun, because that instantly becomes part of your medical record.

    Don’t waffle, or tell the doctor you’re “uncomfortable” answering the question, because they very well may notate that too.

    Lie. Right through your teeth. “Why no, doc, I don’t have any guns in the home at all!”

    It’s none of anybody’s business anyway.

    By the way, that question never was on the questionnaire I filled out. But I’ll be ready next time.
    Here's What To Say When Your Doctor Asks If You Have a Gun At Home
  2. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Had my Annual Physical last week, and the SawBones says I will live AT LEAST one more Year.... He has been my Doc for 30+ Years... He doesn't have to ask, because he KNOWS I am a Shooter... However if he ever did ask, I would tell him, " it is none of your Business." Get dressed, and walk out of the Office, and never look back... That is just the way I am....
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  3. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    yes I have staple guns and nail guns and salad shooters and even a glue gun.
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  4. AD1

    AD1 Monkey+++

    My doc(female) is a member of the TParty and after my checkups we always talk politics.

    I will never have to hear that from her [seeno][hearno][sayno]
    Last edited: May 20, 2016
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  5. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    Sweeeet! I didn't realize just how well-armed I am!

    I have a screw gun, brad gun, staple gun, nailgun, hot glue gun, squirt gun, airgun, and a bubble gun.

    (I let my grandkids play with that last one, even though letting minors have access to guns is supposedly illegal.)

    (P.S.: The hot glue gun isn't actually stolen. That's just what they call it.)

    (P.S. P. S.: The screw gun doesn't actually shoot screws. It just looks that way when it's done.)
  6. marlas1too

    marlas1too Monkey+++

    I have a jerky shooter
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  7. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Insurance companies ask. I recently got Home insurance due to worry about all the Forest Fires we had last year. Yep! They asked.
  8. stg58

    stg58 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    HELLary, barry and bernie say guns are bad they kill people so I stay away from them.
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  9. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    Wrote NOYFB next to that question on my Doctor's form.. Then I explained it to him!
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  10. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I make it a point to wear my gun even for Doctor's appointments. Not much need to ask if I got a gun...
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  11. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Ditto. He doesn't like it much and the place is posted for no firearms. I ignore it.
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  12. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey

    Our doctor is like minded,so no worries there. I have yet to see this question on a doctor's form, but then I haven't had to fill any out in awhile.
    A good friend of ours is also a doctor (firearms collector) and the joke is that both of us have agreed to a "Don't ask, Don't tell policy..
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  13. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    That made me laugh! @Seacowboys

    I was rolling my eyes at the comment 'gun violence is an increasing health problem' really, now are we going to put it in the PDR as a diagnosis?

    'Diagnosis of Illness: Gun violence'

    really? [banghead]
  14. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    I am a jerky shooter.
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  15. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I ain't touchin' that one ---
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  16. Legion489

    Legion489 Rev. 2:19 Banned

    Instead of saying you don't have a gun, say "Gee, guns kill X number of people a year, QUACKS on the other hand kill five times that many, but I still showed up here." OK, don't that the stats off hand, but it easy enough to look up.
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  17. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I've never been asked by a doctor but I have been chastised for having one by the local police who were at my house to investigate a break in. My comments to them at that time are not repeatable in polite company
  18. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    It's all about the meta data.
    Insurance company data bases, health care providers, sporting goods stores, grocery stores, online purchases, web searches, license plate scanners, facial recognition, IP Logs, Social media, Fitbit, bank records, package delivery service records...

    Yep, you data knows you better than you do. Unless you, pay cash for everything, live in the bush, have someone else go into town for you .. you have left bread crumbs. Actually, you've probably dropped loaves all along the way.

    The best you can do now is to start obfuscating and corrupting your data by doing stuff for others that is completely opposite of your actual self. I suggest purchasing a large quantity of depends and prep-h.
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  19. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    I don't own guns - all my firearms have rifling... so my lie detector proof answer is no.
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  20. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    I went to a neighboring towns hospital a while back. The desk girl asked me at check in to step in front of their little camera for a picture....just to add it to my file. I laughed, told her not a chance and took my chair in the waiting room. She looked like I had slapped her. It told me that she rarely here's No!!
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