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Got this today in E-mail

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Cephus, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. Cephus

    Cephus Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Was just wondering what you guys think.

    Subject: Fw: What does this word mean?

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    Is this true.......check it out to see....

    Dhimmitude -- What does it mean?
    Obama used it in the health care bill.

    Now isn't this interesting? It is used in the health care law.

    Dhimmitude -- I had never heard the word until now. Type it into Google and start reading. Pretty interesting. It's on page 107 of the healthcare bill. I looked this up on Google and yep, it exists.. It is a REAL word.

    Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

    Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

    ObamaCare allows the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States . Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Islam considers insurance to be "gambling", "risk-taking", and "usury" and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this.

    How convenient. So I, as a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax. Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. This is Dhimmitude.

    I recommend sending this on to your contacts. American citizens need to know about it --


    Whatever it is it don't sound good !!!
  2. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Well isn't that special from the Kenyan Muslim Zero. Guess I'll have to say I'm Muslim if it comes down to it.
  3. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

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  4. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

  5. Huntinbull

    Huntinbull Monkey+

    I checked several fact proving sites and it seems to be bogus. Read page 107 of the bill and found no corroboration. It is true that some religions have prohibitions against certain fiscal acts, but never saw the word dhimmitude used.
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  6. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Nice to see some folk doing some basic fact checking

    The pity of it is the folk who start threads with copy and pasted spam chain-emails don't do likewise from the outset. This chain email has that many factual holes in it....that I'm surprised that anyone with even half a neurone could take it seriously. Why is it that posting partisan cant becomes almost impossibly irresistible when it tends to agree with one's own world view, regardless of whether there is any factual basis to the contents of the email.?

    Hmm I think this is how it goes.... Monkey X hates O...this spam chain email agrees with his/her position on O, and X knows that a lot of monkeys here agree with his/her views on O, and would find the post amusing, alarming or outraging, so dang it....X dun posts a highly emotive slam dunk email in one of the monkey forums. The next thing....fellow admirers of X and what he/she thinks about O's post start showering X's post with likes and add their own embellishments to the O bashing, without actually critically analysing the opening post for the factual truth. And so it goes...pretty much adnausium.


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  7. Cephus

    Cephus Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Small bass fiddle (chello)
    This why ask for people thought of it was it true. I'm not as good with the computer and keyboard as you young guys .
    So if asking a ? is wrong please advise me and I'll stop,just for you.
  8. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    I do like the string section of an ochestra,

    Note 1. Well, not quite a question....what you said was
    There is no indication that you have any doubts about the email, nor was there any disclaimer as to the accuracy of the "facts" contained within it.

    Note 2. As someone who is the seventh decade of his life, I find many things challenging.... for instance I can no longer do a combat fitness test in the same time that I used to be able to do, twenty years ago, but all it requires to fact check a chain-email is the ability to do a google search...that's what I did with regard to the claim that dhimmitude was used in page 107 of the legislation so cited http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf . Then it was merely a matter of using some not very difficult skills in critical thinking.

    Note 3. There's nothing wrong with asking questions, if that's what your intention is....however, one is on more murkier ground if the intent is to solicit emotional responses to what is posted to garner support for a particular political point of view, using material that is based on misrepresentation and egregious lies. Even without researching the accuracy and truthfulness of the email, it is quite clear from the tone of the email that it is wildly biased against muslims and the Obama administration. That ought to have been a red flag that perhaps the "facts" need checking.

    Note 4. No need to stop asking questions, nor to stop posting...for my sake...but it behoves people who are relying on the words of others, to do some minimal fact checking and using some critical judgement as to whether the material actually merits posting.

    Ask yourself.... Is it true?

    Ask yourself.....What are my motives for posting it? Are they good and honourable..or are they merely to destroy?

    Ask yourself.....Does what I post add in any meaningful way to a better understanding of the topic?

    If material is not factually correct...and it is biased....then I doubt the wisdom of posting it at all.
  9. Cephus

    Cephus Monkey+++ Founding Member

    WOW and so few words ,Mind reader to boot .
    Ya should take this act on the road,maybe ya could find a pardner and do it like Crosby and Hope did and make movies for youtube .
  10. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

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