GPS Interference..... FCC got it WRONG Again....

Discussion in 'Survival Communications' started by BTPost, Jun 11, 2011.

  1. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    FCC got it WRONG Again.... This is what happens when a Technical Regulating Agency is run my Political Hacks, and Lawyers, instead of Engineers, and Technical Types......

    Tests show wireless network could jam GPS systems New government test results show that a proposed high-speed wireless broadband network being launched by a company called LightSquared could jam GPS systems used for aviation, public safety, military operations and other uses.

    By JOELLE TESSLER AP Technology Writer

    New government test results show that a proposed high-speed wireless broadband network being launched by a company called LightSquared could jam GPS systems used for aviation, public safety, military operations and other uses.
    The results released this week by a federal working group come amid mounting concern that LightSquared's planned network could cripple GPS systems embedded throughout the nation's infrastructure. And they raise questions about whether the government will allow LightSquared to turn its network on as scheduled next year.
    In January the Federal Communications Commission gave LightSquared approval to build a nationwide fourth-generation wireless network that would compete with super-fast systems being rolled out by AT&T and Verizon. The new network will wholesale access to other companies that will rebrand the service under their own names.
    The FCC sees the LightSquared network as one part of a broad government push to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans. It would cover at least 92 percent of the U.S. by 2015.
    But the company's plans have set off alarm bells among GPS equipment makers and the many government agencies and companies that rely on GPS systems, because LightSquared's network would use airwaves right next to those already set aside for GPS. They warn that sensitive satellite receivers - designed to pick up relatively weak signals coming from space - could be overwhelmed when LightSquared starts sending high-powered signals from as many as 40,000 transmitters on the ground.
    "LightSquared's network could cause devastating interference to all different kinds of GPS receivers," said Jim Kirkland, vice president and general counsel of Trimble Navigation Ltd., which makes GPS systems.
    Faced with these concerns, the FCC has made clear that LightSquared cannot launch its network until the interference problems are resolved. It is requiring the company to participate in a technical working group with GPS manufacturers and users to study the matter. That group conducted GPS interference tests using LightSquared equipment in Las Vegas last month and will report the results to the FCC next week.
    The agency will then seek public comments on the matter. In a statement Friday, the FCC said it "will not allow LightSquared's commercial service to proceed if that would cause widespread harmful interference with GPS."
    In the meantime, other test results are coming out.
    Results compiled by a working group of the National Executive Committee for Space-Based Positioning, Navigation, and Timing - a government organization that advises and coordinates among federal agencies that rely on GPS technology - found potential for widespread GPS interference. The tests showed that wireless signals from LightSquared's planned network interfered with GPS receivers used by the Coast Guard and NASA and caused Federal Aviation Administration GPS receivers to stop functioning altogether.
    The tests - most of which were conducted by various federal agencies at Holloman Air Force Base and White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico in April - also caused GPS receivers used by New Mexico state police and by fire and ambulance crews to lose reception. In addition, GPS receivers built into farm equipment made by John Deere lost signals, as did most General Motors' OnStar navigation systems.
    Last week RTCA, a nonprofit group that advises the FAA, released the results of its own interference tests and found that LightSquared's use of airwaves closest to the GPS spectrum would cause a "complete loss of GPS receiver function" over large metropolitan areas.
    Despite the test results released so far, the FCC insists the interference questions are far from settled. "Some of the tests to date may have relied on different assumptions, metrics and mitigation assumptions, and so may not accurately reflect the potential for interference as a result of how the network may be operated," the agency said.
    LightSquared executive vice president Jeffrey Carlisle said he remains confident that the company's new network and GPS systems can co-exist. After all, he noted, findings of interference do not come as a surprise. What matters, he said, is what can be done about the interference.
    Among the solutions outlined by the government working group: modifying LightSquared's antenna patterns and reducing the power levels of its base stations; limiting the slices of airwaves that LightSquared can use or moving the company to a different part of the spectrum; and installing better filters on GPS receivers to screen out LightSquared's signals.
    GPS makers and users are particularly concerned about the final option since they say it could take many years - and possibly billions of dollars - to upgrade all of the GPS receivers in use.


    The FCC was warned abut this two years ago, when they first proposed this fiasco..... and now it is a proven FACT, by Field Testing.... Should have NEVER happened in the FIRST PLACE....
  2. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    Why am I not surprised?
  3. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    I wonder who gets stuck with the bill?
  4. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator


    June 15, 2011 By: Janice Partyka Wireless Pulse, June 2011

    LightSquared Prospects Dimming. Concerns by government and the private
    sector about GPS interference from LightSquared‚s proposed wholesale LTE
    service accelerates. Government experts just reported that interference
    with GPS occurred in high portions of LightSquared's spectrum bands and
    little in the lower spectrum. The National Space-Based PNT Advisory Board‚s
    tests showed that some GPS receivers lost signal strength while others
    were fully disabled by LightSquared's signal. FCC Chairman Genachowski,
    under fire for granting LightSquared a conditional waiver, has reiterated
    that he will not permit LightSquared to begin commercial service without
    first resolving concerns about potential interference to GPS devices.

    Genachowski hit back at the GPS community in a letter to Sen. Charles
    Grassley, "It should be no surprise to anyone involved in the LightSquared
    matter that the company was planning for some time to deploy a major
    terrestrial network in the spectrum adjacent to GPS." Members of the
    National Space-Based PNT Advisory Board have stated that they and the GPS
    community were not properly notified when the FCC removed the limit on the
    number of base stations deployed on this spectrum. And so it goes on. (See
    also LightSquared, FCC Rebuttals Distort Record.)
  5. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    and someone smirked at my mention of sextant and
    but seriously, this electronic stuff for the ignorant will be their undoing
    no one with a brain should rely on it, sure its nice to use, so are cash registers
    how many people do you know these days that can honestly give correct change?
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  6. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    I learned land navigation courtesy of the Army; IMO, the biggest advantage of a GPS is the map. A road map is better than no map.
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  7. bassic

    bassic Monkey+

    There's a reason why they they still teach dead reckoning in flight training. Sure, it's convenient to plug in your departure and destination points, then fly point-to-point, but I wouldn't trust it 100%. Gimme a paper map and a compass, and I'll get where I'm going every time...even quicker if I've been there before.

    Took a basic survival course when I was 14, we used topo maps and compasses. Going through a swamp, we did bushwhacking, taking a bearing and sending out a scout until we couldn't see him any more; he'd stop and yell back, we'd correct his left/right position by sound, when lined up, we'd all go until we got to him. I know that wouldn't be practical in a bug-out situation (for security reasons), but it hammered home basic orienteering skills.

    It really shocks me how dependent the sheeple have become on GPS. Time was, you'd stop in a gas station if you were lost, go in, and look at the map on the wall. Today's sheep panic on a road trip without GPS!
  8. bassic

    bassic Monkey+

    Anyone born before 1975 should be able to count change. After that, I'm not so sure!
  9. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    "Follow the money", and you'll probably find that Lightsquared paid the FCC chairman and others to get their ball rolling........

    Big Business and Politics in bed together yet again.......
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