Growth of the Amercian Gestapo?

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Clyde, May 1, 2006.


  1. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

  2. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    [gone] :dunno: probably....big brother will take good care of us. If you can't trust the government, who can you trust? oh say can you see, by the dawns early light, what so proudly we hailed at the twilights last gleaming... buy america....just say no....it will only hurt a little bit....if they know where we all are and what everybody is doing all the time, then just think of how much better they can help us...call 911... I'll pull it out in time....trust us... [no]
     
  3. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    :dunno:
    This sure reeks of Nazi. I always believed that mistakes learned from was merley the cost of an education but mistakes that repeat themselves defined stupidity. Let's wave our flags and support our police and military while they abuse the liberties of lesser people, forget the preamble and all that wish-wash about being created equal; we have an agenda here and there is no room for human rights or individual freedom in it.
     
  4. BRONZ

    BRONZ Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Been going on for a long time.
     
  5. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

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    Corporation, Wackenhutt, EO, Wackendude, mol, Hillal, GGL, CTU, botux,
    Virii, CCC, Blacklisted 411, Internet Underground, XS4ALL, Retinal Fetish,
    Fetish, Yobie, CTP, CATO, Phon-e, Chicago Posse, l0ck, spook keywords, PLA,
    TDYC, W3, CUD, CdC, Weekly World News, Zen, World Domination, Dead, GRU,
    M72750, Salsa, 7, Blowfish, Gorelick, Glock, Ft. Meade, press-release,
    Indigo, wire transfer, e-cash, Bubba the Love Sponge, Digicash, zip, SWAT,
    Ortega, PPP, crypto-anarchy, AT&T, SGI, SUN, MCI, Blacknet, Middleman, KLM,
    Blackbird, plutonium, Texas, jihad, SDI, Uzi, Fort Meade, supercomputer,
    bullion, 3, Blackmednet, Propaganda, ABC, Satellite phones, Planet-1,
    cryptanalysis, nuclear, FBI, Panama, fissionable, Sears Tower, NORAD, Delta
    Force, SEAL, virtual, Dolch, secure shell, screws, Black-Ops, Area51, SABC,
    basement, data-haven, black-bag, TEMPSET, Goodwin, rebels, ID, MD5, IDEA,
    garbage, market, beef, Stego, unclassified, utopia, orthodox, Alica, SHA,
    Global, gorilla, BOB, Pseudonyms, MITM, Gray Data, VLSI, mega, Leitrim,
    Yakima, Sugar Grove, Cowboy, Gist, 8182, Gatt, Platform, 1911, Geraldton,
    UKUSA, veggie, 3848, Morwenstow, Consul, Oratory, Pine Gap, Menwith, Mantis,
    DSD, BVD, 1984, Flintlock, cybercash, government, hate, speedbump,
    illuminati, president, freedom, cocaine, $, Roswell, ESN, COS, E.T., credit
    card, b9, fraud, assassinate, virus, anarchy, rogue, mailbomb, 888, Chelsea,
    1997, Whitewater, MOD, York, plutonium, William Gates, clone, BATF, SGDN,
    Nike, Atlas, Delta, TWA, Kiwi, PGP 2.6.2., PGP 5.0i, PGP 5.1, siliconpimp,
    Lynch, 414, Face, Pixar, IRIDF, eternity server, Skytel, Yukon, Templeton,
    LUK, Cohiba, Soros, Standford, niche, 51, H&K, USP, ^, sardine, bank, EUB,
    USP, PCS, NRO, Red Cell, Glock 26, snuffle, Patel, package, ISI, INR, INS,
    IRS, GRU, RUOP, GSS, NSP, SRI, Ronco, Armani, BOSS, Chobetsu, FBIS, BND,
    SISDE, FSB, BfV, IB, froglegs, JITEM, SADF, advise, TUSA, HoHoCon, SISMI,
    FIS, MSW, Spyderco, UOP, SSCI, NIMA, MOIS, SVR, SIN, advisors, SAP, OAU,
    PFS, Aladdin, chameleon man, Hutsul, CESID, Bess, rail gun, Peering, 17,
    312, NB, CBM, CTP, Sardine, SBIRS, SGDN, ADIU, DEADBEEF, IDP, IDF, Halibut,
    SONANGOL, Flu, &, Loin, PGP 5.53, EG&G, AIEWS, AMW, WORM, MP5K-SD, 1071,
    WINGS, cdi, DynCorp, UXO, Ti, THAAD, package, chosen, PRIME, SURVIAC
     
  6. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    CIA Purge - The New American Gestapo

    TBR News.org – May 11, 2006

    “’When thieves fall out,’ as the saying goes,’ honest men prosper.’ With the obvious ongoing destruction of the CIA by the Cheney-Rumsfeld axis of evil, many of the older and experienced agents are leaving the agency before it is taken over by the Department of Defense and run the way Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld wish it to be run…as a fully-controlled arm of Republican and White House ideological and political policy. These demoralized and totally disillusioned staffers are leaking like a rotten garden hose and talking to outsiders as never before. There was always the occasional slip of information at cocktail parties between acquaintances but now it is like a veritable circus parade, complete with brass bands and clowns and reams and reams of formerly highly classified and explosive documents.. Also, many inside the Pentagon are also disillusioned, and occasionally deeply alarmed, at the courses being set for them by the Cheney-Rumsfeld axis of evil. They have discoursed loudly and at length about what many of them call ‘the new American Gestapo.’

    The man who heads this Pentagon drive is one Dr. Stephen A. Cambone, the Pentagon’s <>de facto<> intelligence head and Rumsfeld’s most trusted aide. Cambone keeps a low profile and is very careful to avoid any kind of publicity. Stephen Cambone is 54 years old, a native of Highland New York and as Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Overseas (and Domestic) has a staff of 145 full time employees and over 100 so-called “Defense Contractors” including the notorious Lincoln Group of paid propagandists known inside the Pentagon as the ‘Goebbels Brigade.’ His office's responsibilities include domestic counter intelligence, (i.e., spying at will on any American with a telephone, fax or computer,) long-range threat planning and budgeting for new technologies.

    Dr. Cambone graduated from Catholic University in 1973 with a B.A. degree in Political Science, from the Claremont Graduate School in 1977 with an M.A. degree in Political Science, and from the Claremont Graduate School in 1982 with a Ph.D. in Political Science. His numerous awards include the Secretary of Defense Award for Outstanding Service in 1993 and the Employee of the Year Award with SRS Technologies (Washington Operations) in 1988.

    Cambone draws much of his influence from the close working relationship he has developed with Mr. Rumsfeld, beginning in the late 1990's when Mr. Cambone served as staff director for independent commissions on space and ballistic missile threats that Mr. Rumsfeld headed when both men were out of government. Dr. Cambone was the Staff Director for the Commission to Assess United States National Security Space Management and Organization from July 2000 to January 2001. He was the Director of Research at the Institute for National Strategic Studies, National Defense University (INNS/NDU) from August 1998 to July 2000. Before that he was the Staff Director for the Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States from January 1998 to July 1998; a Senior Fellow in Political-Military Studies at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) from 1993 to 1998; the Director for Strategic Defense Policy in the Office of the Secretary of Defense from 1990 to 1993; the Deputy Director, Strategic Analysis, SRS Technologies (Washington Operations) from 1986 to 1990; and a Staff Member in the Office of the Director, Los Alamos National Laboratory from 1982 to 1986.

    Under previous Administrations, the Pentagon has always been a large and serious presence in the American intelligence community, in the main because it controlled agencies with multibillion-dollar budgets like the National Security Agency and National Reconnaissance Office that are responsible for eavesdropping and communications satellites. The Pentagon, under Rumsfeld’s orders and with the President and Vice President’s active cooperation and support, is now branching out into HUMINT or human intelligence. The first step in achieving superiority is to downgrade, discredit and eventually replace the civilian CIA. The appointment of an Air Force General to head the CIA is the second to final step in this process. The final step will be the official integration of the CIA, and its files, into the Pentagon’s intelligence network, a network that will not only control all aspects of foreign intelligence but, more important, domestic surveillance and control as well.

    Because he is seen as a highly abrasive, ruthless hatchet man and subservient toady of Rumsfeld and Cheney, Cambone is detested inside the Pentagon, both by senior military personnel and civilian staff. He has pushed repeated and open violations of the Geneva Convention, which infuriates the professional military who claim, with justification, that this could end up being used against American military personnel, and has strongly supported the concept of a U.S. military presence inside the United States that would be trained in dealing with outbreaks of public anti-government activity and has produced studies calling for the institution of a Pentagon-controlled data base on “any and all elements, individual or associations” that could pose a threat to “internal security in the United States” at any given time. He has supported the NSA (a branch of the Pentagon in its illegal telephone, fax and computer tapping that has been in progress for <>eleven years<>. Information gleaned from these universal observation programs are added to the Pentagon’s data bank on potential “anti-Establishment elements” which consist of anti-war, anti-draft, anti-Bush, anti-military organizations to include any “so-called peace groups”

    The ‘No-Fly List” is a product of this program and as of May 1, 2006, runs to 23,451 Americans who are now forbidden to fly by commercial aircraft inside the United States and whose names are immediately reported to the Pentagon upon their application for tickets. The bulk of the names are not associated with foreign terrorism but are certainly considered by the Cambone people to be “potential enemies of the State” and as such, kept under constant surveillance. In the past, such surveillance has been the province of the F.B.I. but the Pentagon has taken over control of this and runs it for itself, without liaison with the Bureau.

    Such turf wars and internecine squabblings have done more to utterly wreck America’s intelligence and counter intelligence agencies than legions of clandestine penetrations by the KGB, MI6 and the MOSSAD combined.

    The real reason for the takeover of the CIA? So that the Bush people can get their hands on the heavily guarded CIA archives out at Anacostia at Bolling AFB. Cheney has said that if his people (read Cambone/Rumsfeld) could get their hands on these precious files, none of the early ones having been computerized, they could blackmail their enemies both foreign and domestic. There is, a Pentagon source told me yesterday, enough hitherto unknown and secret material in the early CIA archives to literally destroy governments and people around the world. Cambone would have control over these archives and God help anyone who has information on them that can be found in the files that would dare to stand in the way of the Bush-Rove-Cheney and Rumsfeld Imperium!

    There is also the question of the old Hoover FBI private files and their massive amount of material on Congressmen and other Beltway luminaries. Rove has been able to mute the Democratic opposition (ever wonder why the Demos have been so quiet lately?) by getting access to some of the FBI material and threatening his enemies with exposure.

    It is widely believed here that if Rove goes down, he will either blab his head off to avoid prison, keep his mouth shut and get paid off handsomely later (and a promise of being pardoned by a later Republican president) or will threaten to talk if not rescued and have a fatal accident while hunting for snipe in his back yard. Cheney will bag him with a full-choke 20 gauge and claim he thought it was a rabid attacking turtle he put 20 rounds into.”
    www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2327.htm

    www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/category.asp?id=41
     
  7. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    ......etc......


    So is that what you would call a formal and engraved invitation for the .govs to come check us out? [peep] [gone] [LMAO]
     
  8. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    A few more:
    IED, fertilizer, fuel oil, smokeless powder, black powder, saltpeter, C-4, TNT, dynamite, M10, pyrotechnics, tracer, disposable missle launchers, plastique, nitrocellulous, guncotton, shaped charge, remote trigger, cell phone, hobbyist radio controls, garage door opener, blast proofing, ransom notes, claymore, broken arrow, Langley, mall, ball bearings, detonate [gone]
     
  9. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    monkey militia, nuclear bomb plans, cruise missle plans, C4 Recipe, homemade dynamite, government overthrow, 2nd amendment, second amendment, remote trigger device, patriot or domestic terrorist, anarchist cookbook, CO2 bomb, low level ultralight bomber, shoe bomber, shoe bombs, shoe bomb making equipment, Assassination Techniques of the 21st Centrury.

    This really gets the creative juices flowing. [touchdown]
     
  10. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    al queda,al-kaida, al-quaida,al-k-aida,al-koolaida, all quaida...quran, korahn
    ,koran,south koran, north koran,
    careful with this (Never poke a racoon with a stick...they may look cuddly; but they can turn on you fast...)
    Anybody tried to fly lately?
     
  11. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    You been snooping in my library again? :eek:
     
  12. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Flew a month ago. Harder to get out of the US than it was to get back in.:(
     
  13. phishi

    phishi Psy-Ops Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Yeah, ask an illegal...........

    phishi
     
  14. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer


    Guess you didn't try hard enough to make the "no fly" list:(:D
     
  15. yonder

    yonder No Despot's Servant

    [/FONT]

    [soap]
     
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