Gun Control

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Alpha Dog, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    I was at a local gun shop just hanging around playing with some of the new man toy's the shop owner had just got in. WE were talking he he was saying Hillary Clinton signed a treaty with the UN for gun control. So I found this on line do any of you guys know anything about it. I found the below statement on several sites. A few of the sites also stated some gun controls would take place in early 2012.

    While you were watching the oil spill, the New York failed terrorist bombing and other critical crises, Hillary Clinton signed the small arms treaty with the UN.
    On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States
    On Wednesday the Obama administration took its first major step in a plan to ban all firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that w ill inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened.
    Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment. This has happened in other countries, past and present! THIS IS NOT A JOKE OR A FALSE WARNING. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control. Read the Article U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto. The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better
  2. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    yup, its been goin on
    thats why we were talkin bout waays to hide guns and ammo
  3. STANGF150

    STANGF150 Knowledge Seeker

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  4. Opinionated

    Opinionated Monkey+

    This has indeed been around a while.

    Also had a ton of debate as to whether a treaty like this could be used to circumvent the (U.S.) Founding Documents.

    Seems to be consensus on both sides of that.

    I'm inclined to think it can not. But I realize that *could be* just wishful thinking. Where there is a career politician there is a slimy slippery way for them to achieve their goals. I know that much for certain.
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  5. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    Well if it comes Im not turning mine in a goverment collection point, they will have to come get and get them. I had herd something a few months ago but then didn't hear anything else. The shop owner was telling me that it was signed and he thinks we will start to see changes in early 2012. Not only do we have to worry about our idiot's trying to take our gun's but we could possibly have to worry about foriegn idiot's telling our idiot's what to do. I think they will meet alot more resistance here than in the other countries.
  6. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    time to make some maps in disguise :)
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  7. snowbyrd

    snowbyrd Latet anguis in herba

    Sorta ties in with the Gubbener of N Carolina talking about suspending elections in 2012. The progressives (read lefties) said she was joking.......not from the tone of voice I heard.
    The Treaty has been in the works for a LONG time. Thanks for the heads up, I had spaced it.
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  8. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    Clause 2: He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

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    The way I read this he needs the Senate to sign off on it. I don't think they would stick their necks out that far on an election year. [dunno]

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  9. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    I have been trying to tell friends about this for a few months now, and most of them think that I am crazy. Well, let me tell you, I have been smelling this for awhile.

    This is going to be circumvented by the admin as it be where it will just be one more step to the new world order or one world gobermutt, whichever you wish to call it. It will be a big step but just another step non the less. These loonies really think that we would all be better off just being their little socialist slaves. Look at Great Britan. Do they really have any rights ? I am willing to bet that most over there don't even bother to vote as they cannot even tell you who is who. They are working on the same thing over here as fast as their little left winggie footsies can point.
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  10. rjoliver44

    rjoliver44 Monkey+++

    If you go to the NRA website and especially the site you will find some very informative info on the UN small arms treaty. Also, since the "Fast and Furious" debaucle by our so called Justice Dept. this has kind of gone on the back burner. But....needless to say this issue is not over by any means. We need to wake up before we, the American people, are sold down the river completly!
  11. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    Sure they contuniously try to make the strong week, however the system has no Heart, who really has the balls to start confiscating firearms from honest people let alone knock on doors in the hood.
  12. dragonfly

    dragonfly Monkey+++

    Finally the "news" has caught on...The "Fast and Furious" debaucle was no more than a way ( ruse) to begin to instill a way to override the 2nd amendment! It's about time someone woke the heck up!
  13. Opinionated

    Opinionated Monkey+

    They won't go to the "hood". They will go to the homes and businesses of law abiding citizens and ignore the places criminals are most likely to be found. That is the way the system works.foosed
  14. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    Ah, he has a way around the Senate and Congress. It is called Executive Order. He can, has, and will use those to forward his agenda. Just sayin'. YMMV.
  15. carly28043

    carly28043 Monkey+

    Fortunately for us we can count on our politicians to be egotistical and selfish. I've got a feeling that an executive order would lead to impeachment based on the pure spite and conviction that the senators oppinions are too important to miss. The next president can easily issue a new executive order reversing the first. It is the one time when the prevailing attitudes in Washington might work in our favor.
  16. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    Ya well I pawned all my guns at the pawnshop in the hood.

    My guess in a military destabalation cities would be fought over first, no one in no one out.

    Going over to redneck Joes house to take his guns away is something thats extremely dangerous.
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  17. Opinionated

    Opinionated Monkey+

    As it should be. :D
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  18. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    And if one redneck gets raided, we tend to band together and END that crap. We are slow to start fights, but we'll end them PDQ.......
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  19. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Crap !!! I think i'll go buy an AR10 tomorrow...Who likes DPMS.???
  20. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    The reason for that will be the sheeple will not resist with the promise of a safe world where all men will be fair and honest once the evil gun owner's are all gone. If they went to the hood or some of these hollor's around here there will be alot of blood shed and the sheeple might not support them. Once they have the sheeple's firearms it will be easier for Big Brother to classisy us with homey the gangbanger and the use of force will be accepted with open arms. All us country boy's and the homey's will be the bad guy evil gun owner's. The way I see it I've never cared what sheeple or Big Brother thinks of me, so if they want some come get some.
    They think umbolno can dig in the sands of the Middle East they aint seen $h!t til they come in my hollor's and deal with these Ol'boy's.
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