Guns Don't Kill People, Doctors Do

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Minuteman, Sep 17, 2014.


  1. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    The fact is that you are, I don't recall correctly but many times more likely to die from medical malpractice than from a gunshot. But that isn't what I mean by the title.
    I was aware of the link between mass killings and psychiatric drugs but I was surprised by the length of this list. I didn't know it was so widespread and documented.


    Time after time, mass murderers are found to have been taking psychiatric drugs
    Elliot Rodger now joins a long and ever-expanding list of other killers who were either taking psychiatric drugs or withdrawing from them at the time they committed mass murder.

    While the mainstream media predictably blames guns for all mass shootings, it rarely looks at the chemical drugging of the person who pulled the trigger on those guns. After all, guns don't operate by themselves. They require a person to make a decision to commit murder.

    In case after case, mass murderers on psychotropic drugs describe themselves as feeling withdrawn, isolated, distant and almost living out a "video game" that isn't real. This is what psychiatric drugs to do you: they make you feel detached from reality.

    Here's just some of the true history of psychiatric drugs and mass murder:

    * Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

    * Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

    * Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

    * Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

    * Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

    * Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

    * Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

    * Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

    * A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

    * Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

    * A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

    * Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

    * TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

    * Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

    * James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

    * Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

    * Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

    * Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

    * Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

    * Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

    * Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

    * Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

    * Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

    * Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

    * Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

    * Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")

    * Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)

    * Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

    * Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

    * Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

    * Woody, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

    * A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

    * Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

    * Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

    * Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

    * Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.

    * Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

    * Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

    Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....

    * What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az?

    * What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado?

    * What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or?

    * What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct?

    Sources for this article include:

    (1) http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/05/el...

    (2) http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/06/uc...




    Learn more: Elliot Rodger, like nearly all young killers, was taking psychiatric drugs (Xanax) - NaturalNews.com
     
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  2. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    [applaud][applaud][applaud] I have posted this article a few times on my FB page. That is just a tip of the iceberg. Those drugs that Dr's dole out with no hesitation are extremely dangerous. What kind of doctor would put a 14 yr old on trazodone? He was 14! Makes me sick. Teachers are a huge pusher of parents drugging their children. It is easier to teacher a zombie rather then a active child.
     
  3. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Doctors push this stuff because they get kickbacks, vacations, other promotional stuff. Anything you add to your body/mind can, will, and does alter your perception of reality. The school wanted to put my youngest on Ritalin so we did temporarily. Did not take but a couple weeks and we told the school that we were putting him in another school--one that did not push drugs onto kids. Mighty funny that when I was in school no one took meds. If we were a problem the principal took care of it--lol, I still wince at the thought of his "corrections".
     
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