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H.R. 5717 Gun Violence Prevention and Community Safety Act of 2020

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by Thunder5Ranch, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. Thunder5Ranch

    Thunder5Ranch Monkey+++

  2. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Another Load of BS, conjured up by a Demoncrate, for public consumption by his base of snowflakes... It will go nowhere in the Senate, if it even makes it outof the House..
  3. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Well other than total registration, outlawing build your own, most semi auto's, 30 % ta on weapons, 50 % tax on ammo and ignoring the 2 nd Amendment totally, I can't see much wrong with it.[sarc2] Another one of those situations where their idea of heaven is my idea of hell. Always a good idea to arm the wolves and disarm the sheep, if you are a wolf.[cow]The only problem I see is that 90 % of what i see today as "sensible laws" would have been resisted to the death in 1945.
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  4. Altoidfishfins

    Altoidfishfins Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    They're trying to slide this under the wire while everyone else is looking the other way.

    Just like Nancy trying to slip Green New Deal legislation and funding for unrelated things into the relief package a few weeks ago. Unfortunately she got away with some of it.

    Come November, it's time to clean House.
  5. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey++

    This will go over like a turd in a punch bowl! Not Happening.
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  6. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    Knowing a few GA residents, Hank won't survive in office after the Nov elections.
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  7. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    HR 5717

    "To end the epidemic of gun violence and build safer communities by strengthening Federal firearms laws and supporting gun violence research, intervention, and prevention initiatives.

    A bill.
    To end the epidemic of gun violence and build safer communities by strengthening Federal firearms laws and supporting gun violence research, intervention, and prevention initiatives."

    Sounds good right, like it actually is going to try to make people safer right?

    Looks like every gun owner will be 21, licensed for guns and ammo, have some sort of training, a mental evaluation. Universal background checks, 7 day wait, secure gun storage laws, red flag law, silencer ban, assault weapons ban, stolen or lost gun reporting laws, make firearms manufacturers liable for their products, community gun violence programs.

    So about 90% of it is a gun grab with maybe 5% actually making people safer.
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  8. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Ok then raise the minimum age for enlistment to 21. You know since people 18-20 can’t be trusted with guns. They start drafting these people’s kids into the military when we can’t get enough volunteers.
  9. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    The dolt ignored the fact that those first time gun owners who are panic buying and causing record gun sales are his voting base. The people that vote "R" for the most part already have defensive weapons. Many of them were short ammo at worst. The newbies all just found out the hard way that buying a gun isn't as easy as buying a book like their god told them.

    What you mean I can't buy it on the Internet and have it sent directly to my house? Are you sure? My State Senator says you can and it's some kind of loophole we need to close. I have Amazon Prime. will that help? What do you mean the background check isn't back and I have to wait? It's been three days and you don't HAVE to complete the transfer? Really, if you do you can be held liable later on? Isn't there some sort of loophole so I can get my gun?
  10. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    wait until they attach it to a Coronavirus spending bill that has to pass as an amendment.
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  11. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    Other than it being a gun grab... My issue is that it is in violation of the ADA... many of the limits referenced in "assault gun" descriptions are necessary for many with handicaps to enjoy the sport of shooting... ie pistol grips modified fore arms, etc...
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  12. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey++

    While we're at it let's raise the voter age to 21 as well!
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  13. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    And the age required to get a drivers license, enter into a contractual agreement, get married, watch an "R" rated movie... We have to protect society!
  14. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Self Ban!
  15. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    He didn't ignore it, he didn't know it and didn't want to learn it before going hog wild with a pencil. In the real world, that would be learning what his constituancy was thinking and doing.
  16. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    They probably want to lower the voting age to 16.
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  17. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Of course they do because 16 year olds are easier to manipulate through the public school system.
    SB21 likes this.
  18. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Now if they enforced existing laws and passed limited provisions with sunset clause and actually was focused on putting criminals away and making people safer I would be for it.
    Make no mistake this is a gun grab, plain and simple.
    Looks like the only people this will really protection are the criminals.
  19. OldDude49

    OldDude49 Just n old guy

    of course... give the criminals free rein and claim you need even greater power to stop them...

    never mind that you created the situation... many people wont remember what you did...

    and wont realize you had the power to prevent it all along... and you are in dereliction of your duties to them...

    and some will think you were just being a nice person to the poor misguided criminals...

    so win win kinda thing... UNLESS they actually stop and think it through... and vote accordingly that is...
    Thunder5Ranch likes this.
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