Hanzo!!! Kilauea's Erupting (discussion thread)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SB21, May 4, 2018.


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  1. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Not really an understatement if you think about it. What I am talking about is something humans have never seen or recorded to have seen.

    Think about this a moment. The active region is on the SE side of the island and recent fissure lines suggest a clear boundary at this point. In my own estimation (for what it's worth), the only thing keeping the main island from breaking away from the hotspot are two things: 1. the obvious fact it's connected to the plate, so only a strong sudden jolt would make it break away, and 2. a steady amount of lava flowing from the volcano which continues to add support.

    Hawaii-volcano-Kilauea-fissures-MAPPED-1341671.
    The question for study would be to see if the past decade or so has created enough mass to hold the island to the hotspot if indeed the Pacific Plate were to pull away abruptly (albeit in small, gradual bits like usual). I don't know if this means it's precariously close to creating a situation where we could see this, but like I said, it would garner close, in-depth study.
    Hawaii-volcano-Kilauea-fissures-MAPPED-1341682.

    The location of Kilauea is situated in a place where, given the movement of the Pacific Plate (NW) the mass of the island is on the furthest side of the hotspot leading away.
    lava-and-toxic-gas-spew-from-new-fissures-after-kilauea-volcano-eruption-in-hawaii.

    If there is a big earthquake to shake loose the southern flank, it's possible a large rift and potentially, a separate island may be formed. The Hilina Slump could potentially wipe out Honolulu in the wake of a tsunami, but I doubt mainland coasts would have to worry. This is assuming any of that even happens, of course.

    I hypothesize that Hawaii is in the end of its formation stage, but my guess isn't exactly something to rely upon. I would check into professional studies to draw a conclusion. We may not even see anything like this in our lifetimes, either. It could be another million years for all we know.
     
    Brokor, May 22, 2018
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  2. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member


    Oh yeah. Picking up pace now. If they get a big earthquake, might be rough.
    A new island might be fascinating to witness, but if the people don't get clear...not so much.
     
    Brokor, May 26, 2018
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  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    The burning Methane (blue flame) is rare and absolutely awesome!! Aside the damage and human suffering due to this eruption, this is a very dramatic display of the power of nature.
     
    Dunerunner, May 26, 2018
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  4. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I am glad that people are continuing to watch this. It is an amazing thing that is happening but I also think the people of Hawaii need to be prepared and have plans, evacuation to higher ground. When the military moved in helicopters for quick evacuation, to me that was a sign that the shelf may fall. If that happens, it puts the lives of the people on surrounding islands in danger.
     
    Motomom34, May 27, 2018
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  5. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    DKR, May 28, 2018
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  6. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    26 homes destroyed, 2K evacuated

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    locals are stepping in to assist the evacuees.
     
    DKR, May 28, 2018
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  7. Ganado

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    Ganado, Jun 15, 2018
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  8. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    He said the military is planning to bomb to divert the lava. They have high hopes because IMO nature is in charge of this.
     
    Motomom34, Jun 15, 2018
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  9. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    Before you laugh, the AAC did do this on HI - twice
    Failed both times.
     
    DKR, Jun 15, 2018
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  10. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    So why not try a third time. There is a fault line near there.
     
    Motomom34, Jun 15, 2018
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  11. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    They could just get all the politicians in Congress to fly in and blow on the lava flow. But, then; that might just make things hotter... :rolleyes:
     
    Dunerunner, Jun 15, 2018
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  12. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    While thy're blowing THEN you drop the bombs. As many as needed. Then a few more .......just because!
     
    oldawg, Jun 16, 2018
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  13. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    I deeply apologize for derailing this thread.. The Lava Must Flow!!

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    Dunerunner, Jun 16, 2018
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  14. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    From this
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    to this
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    Donated materials
    Donated Labor (Union carpenters and HI Nat Guard heavy equipment & Gensets)
    nice to see things being handled locally - more or less.. These 20 mini-shelters are on an 8 acre lot owned by a local "church".
    (Edit to Ad) the Church is the Sacred Heart Church. I gotta give credit where it is due)

    Odd that this never hit the MSM...
     
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    DKR, Jun 17, 2018
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  15. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

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    Found some morw photos of the work in progress.

    and when done
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    DKR, Jun 17, 2018
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  16. Ganado

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    Ganado, Jun 17, 2018
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  17. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++



    I'm really fascinated by this volcano, as the magma retreats where does it go? we know some of it goes into the ocean, but there doesn't seem to be enough volume to counter act how much the magma has retreated.

    Hawaii is like a centerpoint for a long chain of eruptions in the middle of the pacific rim of volcanos

    Seems to be some pressure building around the Rim
     
    Ganado, Jun 17, 2018
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  18. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    (redacted - posted in wrong thread)

    (blush) soory
     
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    DKR, Jun 17, 2018
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  19. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I have been reading reports that the hilina slump won’t happen. Those reports seemed to come out after posts like Brokor’s surfaced. Tsunamis have happened in the past because geology tells us so. I believe in not panicking the public but to say it won’t happen is leaving people unprepared.
     
    Motomom34, Jun 18, 2018
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  20. DKR

    DKR Raconteur of the first stripe

    All part of what should be an ongoing Hazard Analysis for folks. Once hazards have been identified, mitigation measure can be put in place, followed by Response, Revery and Restoration plans.

    An UltraSuperMega tsunami causes by the Slump could happen because it has happened. Put another way, it is possible, but not probable. Why? This hazard is measured in geological time.

    Flash flooding, house fires and car wreaks all may happen many times a month, and are worth the time and effort to have some mitigation measures in place. That and some decent insurance.
     
    DKR, Jun 18, 2018
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