Heirloom Seeds

Discussion in 'The Green Patch' started by TheEconomist, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. TheEconomist

    TheEconomist Creighton Bluejay

    I have heard from a friend that Heirloom seeds are being pattented and taken off the market so that TPTB can take control of our food supply along with everything elese.

    Manufacturing infertile genetically-engineered seeds, making farmers dependent on agricompanies for future seeds, to control world prices, contributing to the suicide of thousands of bankrupted farmers in India.

    Is there any truth to this?
  2. groovy mike

    groovy mike Immortal

    I doubt it. How can you patent a hundred year old seed variety?
  3. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    I have read, in several places, that the big Ag companies are trying to get them regulated out of common availability and use. Patenting? The big AG can only patent varieties they develop, IIRC - franken-seeds. Other than that the big Ag, like Monsanto are removing heirloom varieties from their catalogs. Once they offered thousands of open pollinated varieties, now I think they offer maybe 500.
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  4. kckndrgn

    kckndrgn Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    don't forget that big AG will also go after the little guys after the franken-plants cross pollinate with tried and true heirloom plants.

    Unless you start growing everything in a sealed "bio-dome" you'll eventually get some cross pollination with that crap!
  5. TheEconomist

    TheEconomist Creighton Bluejay

    As long as my bio-dome doesnt come with Paulie Shore and Matthew Baldwin I just might try it...
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  6. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    Talk about a bass akwards attack on someone. I have quite a supply of heirloom seeds. When I am attacked by Montsanto, I will use knowledge I learned from them against them while flying the Jolly Roger. Viva V for Vendetta !!!
  7. weegrannymush

    weegrannymush Monkey+

    Well, everybody better get their act (and their seed supply) together NOW because if this is all true....we are truly and irrevocably DOOMED. Without heirloom, open-pollinate seeds, there is no tomorrow for us after the SHTF. You all know that or at least, I thought that was the situation. If I am mistaken, would someone please tell me in what way my thinking is out of kilter.

    I am remiss in that I have not ordered any seeds yet....can't seem to break my apathy. If this news doesn't do it, nothing will! It's all too easy in a Canadian winter, even a fairly decent one like this has been, to just blob out in front of the TV or with a book. Excuses, excuses, eh!
  8. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    I worry for you Tac,

    Blackwater is the security contractor for Monsanto. Me hopes you got lots of force multipliers.

  9. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    Don't worry for me. I don't. I know how the story ends. Not only that but, it's a fact that no one lives forever on this earth. Freedom's just another name for nothing left to lose (that can be taken from you). Like Daniel knew, there are some things that cannot be taken from you.
  10. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Ok ..Just for the sake of a list of must have seed's...
    What would you recommend buying..
    I'm favoring sweet corn
    Creole tomato's
    Snap bean's
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  11. limpingbear

    limpingbear future cancer survivor....

    i would say, different varieties of beans, squashes, peppers (bell type)
    and taters. what you dont use can be traded later....
    and dont forget them herbs too. gotta have flavor when cooking...
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  12. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    What seeds from the "Box" stores will produce reuseable seeds?

    What perennial vetatables will naturalize with little or no care?
  13. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    ANYTHING THAT SAYS HYBRID ON IT YOU WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM. What you need must say heirloom. What I am not clear on is this; I am pretty sure all heirloom seed is open polinated, but is all open polinated seed heirloom, and thus, non hybrid?
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  14. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    I bought some snow peas from Lowes because the Coop doesnt have any this year. The package doesnt say Hybrid anywhere on it, so how do I know if I cans save some seeds from the plants?
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  15. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    Also mabey someone can post on drying and preserving seeds.
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  16. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    It would help if you had the exact name of the snow peas variety (not the distributor) such as "Mammoth Melting Sugar" or "Sugar Ann" or "Dwarf White Sugar". The first 2 are heirloom, I am not so sure about the last. Point is we could check.
    For some reason I am having trouble remembering how to link a previous thread. Search for thread Survival Seed ... more bang for your $$$$

    Read more: http://www.survivalmonkey.com/forum/general-discussion/28012-survival-seed-more-bang-your-%24%24%24%24.html#ixzz1l8SsytH9 lol well I accomplished it. Scour this thread, and the following one also
    Seed Catalog Directory
    [​IMG] <!-- google_ad_section_start -->Seed Catalog Directory<!-- google_ad_section_end -->

    <hr style="color: rgb(209, 209, 225); background-color: rgb(209, 209, 225);" SIZE="1"> <!-- google_ad_section_start -->Shamelessly stolen from MEN (Mother Earth News) issue Jan/Feb 2011 pg 76/77.
    They sell heirloom seed or I won't list them. I hate to type, so thank you! I am listing Name, State/zip where located, Online address, phone.
    A few good plants, Mo. 64744, www.afewgoodplants.com , 417-876-7139
    Abundant life seeds, Or. 97472, www.abundanylifeseeds.com , 541-767-9606
    Baker Creek Heirloom seed co, Mo. www.rareseeds.com , 417-924-8917
    Botanical interests, Co. 80020, www.botanicalinterests.com , 877-821-4340
    Bountiful gardens, Ca. 95490, www.bountifulgardens.org , 707-459-6410
    Companion plants, Oh. 45701, www.companionplants.com , 740-592-4643
    D. Landreth seed co, Pa. 17349, www.landrethseeds.com , 717-227-1110
    Earthwave living co, Wa. 98597, www.earthwaveliving.com , 888-589-9283
    Natures crossroads, In. 47403, www.naturescrossroads.com , 812-327-9612
    Nichols garden nursery, Or. 97321, www.naturesgardennursery.com , 800-422-3985
    R.H. Shumway seedsman, Wi. 53956, www.rhshumway.com , 800-342-9461
    Seed savers exchange, Ia. 52101, www.seedsavers.org , 563-382-5990
    Select seeds, Ct. 06076, www.selectseeds.com , 800-684-0395
    Southern exposure, Va. 23117, www.southernexposure.com , 540-894-9480
    Sow true seed, Nc. www.sowtrue.com , 828-254-0708
    Terroir seeds llc, Az. 86323, www.underwoodgardens.com , 888-878-5247
    Tomato growers supply co, Fl. 33906, www.tomatogrowers.com , 888-478-7333
    Tomatofest heirloom tomato seeds, Ca. 95456, www.tomatofest.com , no ph
    Turtle tree, Ny. 12516, www.turtletreeseed.org , no phone
    West wind seeds, Az. 85704, www.westwindseeds.com , no phone
    Willhite seed inc, Tx. 76487, www.willhiteseed.com , no phone

    Read more: http://www.survivalmonkey.com/forum/back-basics/28117-seed-catalog-directory.html#ixzz1l8XVOOAc<!-- google_ad_section_end -->
  17. Falcon15

    Falcon15 Falco Peregrinus

    If I may, I would like to suggest perhaps supporting the Mom & Pop heirloom seed industry on Ebay. I bought through a very reliable, well rated source, 2 massive seed banks, each containing 85 or more varieties of seed. I went with a company in Oklahoma, in my growing region. The seed banks cost me around $40.00 each with free shipping.

    Survival Essentials

    I am not shilling for these folks, just passing on a review of an EXCELLENT bargain. Just an FYI - I purchased wheat seeds separately, to augment my seed banks. I chose a NON-GMO heirloom variety called Kamut, which is:

    Another thing to think about is seed for livestock feed. Dent or Flint corn, wheat, oats, various hays, etc.
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  18. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    The variety I bought is Snowbird, Ive grown them befor and like them.
  19. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

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  20. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

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