Fifth Amendment Holder: "Yes the WH can kill U.S. citizens on U.S. soil without due process"

Discussion in 'Bill of Rights' started by CATO, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

  2. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
  3. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Isn't that called MURDER, and do we not throw people in the GrayBar Hotel for that?
  4. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    If it happened in a State I was Attorney General of, he would be tried for MURDER...
  5. Capt. Tyree

    Capt. Tyree Hawkeye

    Part of the continuing psyop beat-down process upon the sheep mentality masses. If a sheep can rationalize away his right to due process under the law merely because of what a lawless Atty Gen'l says, then he can believe the same for everyone, as he boards the train car to the re-education camp with the fancy gas-spraying showers.
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  6. Gunny Highway

    Gunny Highway Hard Work and Sacrifice blessed by God's Grace

    Eric Holder should forced to resign. ( Pardoned only for Fast and Furious ) Issuing the statement he just did he is most definitely NOT upholding the Constitution...anyone disagree ? Isn't that grounds for dismissal / impeachment ?
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  7. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Well now if it applies to me then it should apply to him AND his buddies. I'm going to dream pleasant dreams tonight.
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  8. CaboWabo5150

    CaboWabo5150 Hell's coming with me

  9. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    now....a$$hole, define "combat"

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  10. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Hurrah for Senator Paul... for his forcing the Administration, to state this FACT, for ALL to SEE, and Understand... They never wanted this to be a Publicly Admitted FACT.. They wanted it to be a GRAY Area, that they could exploit.... Now they are "On Record" Good for US, Bad for Them....
  11. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    I begin to like that young man more and more.
  12. Gunny Highway

    Gunny Highway Hard Work and Sacrifice blessed by God's Grace

    Agreed - define combat.....
  13. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Define "kill". "oh, we meant just to wound....too bad."
  14. Gunny Highway

    Gunny Highway Hard Work and Sacrifice blessed by God's Grace

    Maybe in 2016, he will get the chance to do even more good but it is the span of time between the present and the 2016 election that truly worries me.
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  15. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Coincidental?? Sequestration must be forcing them to "cut back" in places.

    AF removes RPA airstrike number from summary - Air Force News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Air Force Times

    AF removes RPA airstrike number from summary

    By Brian Everstine and Aaron Mehta - Staff writers
    Posted : Friday Mar 8, 2013 12:34:50 EST
    As scrutiny and debate over the use of remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) by the American military increased last month, the Air Force reversed a policy of sharing the number of airstrikes launched from RPAs in Afghanistan and quietly scrubbed those statistics from previous releases kept on their website.
    Last October, Air Force Central Command started tallying weapons releases from RPAs, broken down into monthly updates. At the time, AFCENT spokeswoman Capt. Kim Bender said the numbers would be put out every month as part of a service effort to “provide more detailed information on RPA ops in Afghanistan.”
    The Air Force maintained that policy for the statistics reports for November, December and January. But the February numbers, released March 7, contained empty space where the box of RPA statistics had previously been.

    Click here to see the original December 2012 and January 2013 statistics and the ones apparently loaded online Feb. 22.
    Additionally, monthly reports hosted on the Air Force website have had the RPA data removed — and recently.
    Those files still contained the RPA data as of Feb. 16, according to archived web pages accessed via Metadata included in the new, RPA-less versions of the reports show the files were all created Feb. 22.
    Defense Department spokesman Cmdr. Bill Speaks said the department was not involved in the decision to remove the statistics. AFCENT did not respond to a request for comment by press time.
    The data removal coincided with increased scrutiny on RPA policy caused by President Barack Obama’s nomination of John Brennan to head the CIA. Brennan faced opposition in the Senate over the use of RPAs and his defense of their legality in his role as Obama’s deputy national security adviser.
    On Feb. 20, two days before the metadata indicates the scrubbed files were created, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., sent a letter to Brennan saying that he would filibuster the nomination over concerns about using RPA strikes inside the U.S., a threat he carried out for over 12 hours on March 6 (Brennan was confirmed the next day).
    That same day, Sen. Lindsay Graham, R-S.C., told a crowd in South Carolina that strikes by American RPAs have killed 4,700 people.
    “Sometimes you hit innocent people, and I hate that, but we’re at war, and we’ve taken out some very senior members of al-Qaida,” Graham was quoted by the Patch website as saying.
  16. DMGoddess

    DMGoddess Monkey+++

    Depends on their definition of 'combat'. I mean, Occupy Wall Street could have been considered 'combat', if you use a really loose term. They were fighting the right of the 1% to exploit everyone else.
  17. BAT1

    BAT1 Cowboys know no fear

    I'll give them all the due process they can handle.

    I'll give them all the due process they can handle.
    Notice the sentence not 'engaged in combat'.
    I'm sure that has a broader interpretation.
    Become a hard target. Already a run on Mylar.
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