home schooling questions

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by cool hand luke, Mar 8, 2011.


  1. NVBeav

    NVBeav Monkey+++

    Luke - I don't mean to cause any trouble or anything, but I just wanted to let you know that I don't believe all those bad things Mom said about you...

    Just kidding!!

    A parent generally wants the best for his kids, and that is impetus for making sure your child studies - whether you send them to the daily political indoctrination camps or teach them at home.

    I too have a huge math (and statistics) background, but I will still be nervous about teaching certain topics (e.g., in-depth English grammar). As parents, we can't throw up our hands at the slightest doubt; that would be an incredible disfavor to our little ones (besides teaching them how to give up). Sometimes the teacher has to <GASP>study.

    For my wife and me, homeschooling has been a lot of work that we wouldn't trade for anything. It is an immensely joyful and satisfying experience to watch the growth - especially the eye-popping epiphanies that a child experiences.
     
  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Yep, I've seen that wow kick in with kids from 4 all the way to 40+. When the light comes on, it cannot be missed, and you can pat yourself on the back for making it happen.

    ;)

    </gasp>
     
  3. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    I would agree with that. Successful children in the public school system are the ones with involved parents. Too many adults use the schools as a full-service learning/daycare center. Parental involvement in public schools drops off considerably when students enter middle school and is nearly non-existent at the high school level.

    Most home school studies are very old. The most recent one, that I know of, is Progress Report 2009: Homeschool Academic Achievement and Demographics. Of course, publicly schooled children and their parental involvement are not defined in that (or any other [again, that I know of]) study.

    I have a great deal of respect for the teachers I know. Many teachers applaud parent's home-school efforts. I've only ever had a couple of teachers frown on home schooling. How would any student do on a 1 to 1 student/teacher ratio? :) It would be an ideal teaching situation!

    Think about it; what if no child ever had to wait to get their questions answered. How much faster would their learning process be? How many frustrations would they not have to suffer?

    What if the child were an audio learner, or a visual learner, perhaps a tactile learner? What if the teacher taught in the learning style that allowed them to grasp concepts quicker and to evolve on a personal level so that, eventually, they could embrace any and all learning styles?

    That is what makes parents qualified to teach their children. The ability to recognize the individual learning requirements for each student and the ability to adapt and allow each student to progress and flourish. Just as students and their learning requirements need to be evaluated and adjusted, so should the parental teachers. A good home educator is one that questions not only his student's ability, but his own. A great home educator is one that realizes and admits their shortcomings and searches out resources that will enable their student to grow and learn far beyond their own educational limits.
     
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  4. Robryan

    Robryan Monkey+

    What makes people think they have to be an expert on a subject to teach it, There are classes on the internet that they follow, and ways to find help if needed.
    Jaycee Dugard was kidnapped at 11 years of age and held captive in a backyard “garage/prison” for 18 years. During that time, she had two children, fathered by her kidnapper/rapist.
    Both her daughters, Angel and Starlit, appear to have been educated solely by their mother — who herself never made it past the fifth grade.
    Yet recent tests show Angel, 15, functioning close to the level of a high school senior — that is 3 grade levels higher than Jaycee was at when she was abducted.
     
  5. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    Both Melbo and I have posted this before. Although this takes the thread in a slightly different direction, I believe it gives a good basis for the "why" a parent might want to homeschool their child in the first place.

    Voddie Baucham Ministries
     
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  6. davec

    davec Monkey+

    I suggest you do some research into what the homeschooling world has to offer. Online classes, homeschooling groups and so on.

    Some 'teachers', doctors, and even engineers do not have it in them to teach, they may know their subject, but to be able to explain it so that a child can grasp the concept is a completely different thing.
     
  7. 45acpJHP

    45acpJHP Monkey+

  8. cool hand luke

    cool hand luke Monkey+

    I often wonder how we would have decided on Homeschooling if our son didn't have Aspergers.
     
  9. IndieMama

    IndieMama Monkey+++

    This is exactly correct. And, further, this model of education is what has educated some of our nations greatest historical leaders - Thomas Edison, Abraham Lincoln, and more.

    Also, the resources for homeschoolers is literally ENDLESS. Besides just plain homeschool curriculum, there are correspondence and online courses offered by various trade schools and colleges, to meet the needs of all kinds of interests.

    A degree does not automatically equal an educated mind, or vise versa. But the fact that God gave me these children is what qualifies me to teach them, and nothing else matters beyond that.
     
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  10. hedger

    hedger Monkey+

    Examine Yourself

    If you are truly serious about pursuing a quality education for your children at home, do yourself a favor and checkout k12.com.

    Several years ago, I worked for them.

    You might be excused for thinking it sounds too good to be true--but trust me, all of the good stuff is true. K12 provides the curriculum, the books, a computer and printer, a real licensed teacher to work with, you and your children can go on field trips AND the quality of the school experience will likely be the best that you have ever experienced.

    Here, in Colorado, all of the curriculum, computer stuff and essential supplies are supplied, at no charge to you. Additionally, your local school district actually gets the money that was not used for the materials needed for each of your children.

    If you are a reasonably concerned parent, you can probably undertake educating your kids at home. It does require that one parent be at home during the day--duh, huh? Everybody has some weakness (math or something else) that they struggle with. THAT is where your assigned teacher comes in real handy. Also, please keep in mind that if your own teacher, for a given student, also is not too good at that challenging skill, they have other teachers available (and occasionally, specialists) who can address those areas and get both you and your student past the roadblocks.

    FYI, when colleges and universities see that a student has been home educated, they perk right up and pay special attention because so many of their higher performing students come from being home schooled. The only big potential down-side is the lack of a fuller socializing opportunity for high schoolers. But we all know what a major distraction that can be, so consider that point carefully.
     
  11. ozarkgoatman

    ozarkgoatman Resident goat herder

    That's ok because I don't want my daughter to be a socialist anyway. [beer]

    BWM
     
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  12. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    As i work in higher education i need to point out that this is not always true... many higher ed independent colleges willl not consider home schooled kids with out suporting SAT or ACT scores and written essays... something that is not always required of other students... Not many of the home schooled students attending the two colleges that i have worked at were "Higher Performing" the transfer from home school to college seems to be more difficult... probably due to socialization issues... they are not in the bottom by any means but good average students... additionally they may loose out on many scholarships because their folks don't know how to research them and they have no counselor to identify due dates or teachers to write reccommendations... It's really a mixxed bag...
     
  13. Tracy

    Tracy Insatiably Curious Moderator Founding Member

    That's a good bit of information to be shared Doc. Thank you!

    Some states do not grant a diploma to homeschooled students, unless they're in a publicly-recognized program (like the one that hedger mentioned). The students must go onto college with a GED. Oftentimes, "just" a GED doesn't glow with accolades on the student's performance. Parents need to document, document, document!

    Parents: Go to grant writing workshops. Find out about college entry deadlines early! It's up to you to advocate for your student.
     
  14. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

  15. Witch Doctor 01

    Witch Doctor 01 Mojo Maker

    [quote
    It is not assumed in this study that scores on different tests mean, necessarily, the same thing about the students who took them (Gronlund & Linn, 1990), nor is it assumed that students in this study are perfectly analogous to those students represented by norms for the standardized tests that these students took. It is assumed, however, that the use of aggregated scores from a variety of standardized achievement tests is an acceptable practice and provides valuable information (Frisbie, 1992; Hunter & Schmidt, 1990, p. 516-518; and previous references).
    ][/quote]


    The result are not scientifically valid.... It's kinda like the fda they make assumptions based on dated info to prove a point...

    Watch how the surveys / test are completed ... in many cases hard copies of these tests were mailed to the parents to proctor.... the interpretation is in question... two of us were running a race... i came in second but you were next to last...
     
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