How Free Is Your State?

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by 3M-TA3, Aug 16, 2016.

  1. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    The CATO institute just released an interactive map that details various aspects of freedom for all 50 states. You can select from several categories as well as an overall rating. If you click on a state additional information will be displayed specific to that state.

    This is really worth a look see especially if you are looking to relocate to greener/freer pastures.

    How free is your state?

  2. svjoe

    svjoe Angry Monkey

    NC 16-25.........YMMV
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  3. yeti695

    yeti695 Monkey+

    Good Old Oklahoma, to be I don't feel all that free most of the time.
  4. RouteClearance

    RouteClearance Monkey+++

    Damn nice to live in a orange state.
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  5. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Since California has all but destroyed the Second Amendment, they are now going after the First Amendment as predicted:
    The California Police State comes soon, and as we have seen will spread rapidly north as Oregon will follow like lemmings jumping into a sea of tyranny.

    Yes the link below is Infowars... what a hell of a world we live in when Infowars has more accurate news and commentary than the mainstream media who chooses to ignore these totalitarian moves by government against the people.

    Orwellian CA Bill: Reporters Can’t Post Undercover Videos

    "...That’s right. In California, such videos are already illegal, because they don’t have permission of all parties to be recorded. But if Bill 1671 passes, reporters who are sent those videos, or find them, couldn’t post them and write stories about them. Mainstream, alternative, freelance reporters—it wouldn’t matter.

    Even more bizarre, Bill 1671 specifies undercover videos that secretly record “healthcare providers.” These are the videos targeted by the Bill.

    Nick Cahill, at the Courthouse News Service, has the story. Here are key quotes. Buckle up:

    “Controversy surrounding secretly recorded videos showing Planned Parenthood employees discussing fetal tissue sales has morphed into a California proposal that would punish media companies for reporting on certain undercover videos. But media groups say the bill, which is on the verge of clearing the Legislature, could have a ‘chilling effect’ on free speech and set the state up for First Amendment court battles.”

    “Born from the 2015 hidden-camera footage released by the anti-abortion Center for Medical Progress, Planned Parenthood is pushing Assembly Bill 1671 which it claims will protect abortion clinics and other health care providers from similar malicious sting operations.”

    “The bill would criminalize publishing undercover video footage of ‘health care providers’ and subject third parties, including journalists, to penalties for reporting and distributing the illegally recorded footage.” [My comment: It appears criminal penalties could be applied to anyone who posts the videos and comments on them, online. Not just reporters.]

    “Under AB 1671, a journalist receiving and posting footage from an anonymous source could be punished by the state as well as be opened up to potential civil lawsuits. Whistleblowers would not be exempt from the proposal either, regardless of how they obtained the illegal footage.”

    “The opponents take issue with how the bill specifically criminalizes the distribution of communication with a health care provider. Targeting a specific area of speech amounts to content-based regulation of speech and is unconstitutional, the ACLU claims.”

    “’The same rationale for punishing communications of some preferred professions or industries could as easily be applied to other communications [such as] law enforcement, animal testing labs, gun makers, lethal injection drug producers, the petroleum industry and religious sects,’ ACLU legislative director Kevin Baker wrote in an opposition letter…”

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  6. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    meh go look at how its calculated, personal freedom only gets 6.6% of the total in the rankings.... fiscal policy and politics take up most of the rankings
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  7. GOG

    GOG Free American Monkey Site Supporter

    Orygun = 37

    It should lose a bunch of points for ramming background checks down our throats as an "Emergency Measure". And that sexually confused harpie gubbanor has a bunch of new anti 2A stuff in the hopper.
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  8. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    I live in New Hampshire and I know that the rating is meaningless in our area, along Mass border, and is rapidly reaching that for the state as a whole. The young people have been brainwashed by the schools and mass media, many people have moved in with all their liberal baggage, and our mass media is dominated by our neighbors. Peterborough, two towns over, has a black lives matter banner flying, have meetings etc demanding immigrants rights, and the female pastor of the Unitarian church had an article in the local paper today about how the koran was so much like the Bible and we shouldn't be afraid of it. Kelly Ayoute is running for reelection against our present woman governor for the US Senate and most of the present governor's money is coming from out of state. The "greens" with most of the money from out west will stop any new pipelines, wind towers, dams, power lines etc. We are still somewhat conservative in our state economic policies, but special interest groups, prisoner rights, mental ill, teachers unions, poverty groups, immigrants. etc are all in state and federal courts trying to force the state to spend more for their group. If Hitlery wins, freedom as we once knew it will be gone. It is ironic, I have friends buried in a cemetery in Peterborough that proudly highlights the grave of the drummer that called the men out at Concord to assemble on the common when the British marched in to seize their guns and powder. That did not work out well for England in the long run.
  9. Olympic mountain man

    Olympic mountain man just a lonely cook

    IM FREE IN MY STATE .............OF MIND
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  10. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    I can remember when Oregon was a lot freer...
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  11. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    They say your state is in the top 5, but I remember this post from you.

    Topic of the Month - November 2015 OPSEC | Page 8 | Survival Monkey Forums
  12. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Hrm, rankings are skewed a bit. When it comes to personal freedom, I believe they should have calculated the militarized police state into the equation first, and right to bear arms second. As I calculate, only a few states qualify (in no particular order) Arizona, Texas, Alaska, New Hampshire. There are some very good states close to these, some are better for jobs and fewer legislative garbage, but if they are hard on the right to bear arms and have a heavy militarized gestapo, none of that other stuff matters to me.

    I find it comical they list Maine so high on the list. Stay clear of the police in Maine, Massachusetts, and New York.
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  13. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    Thank you Minuteman. I went back and reread that Nov 2015 topic of the month and it is even more important now than it was then. With the Hitlery looking to be anointed soon, I am taking a lot of the comments very seriously. While it is a little late for OPSEC in most matters, rifle you bought 10 years ago is registered with the gov, papers either in bound book on deposit or in gun shop, I don't think buying things on credit card from Sam's club is a good idea at this moment. Keep your powder dry and most of it buried!
    Interesting in seeing the rankings, it is based on the perceived effects of the laws on the books etc and not how they are selectively enforced. In Nashua NH it is legal to have a pistol, but if a liberal neighbor "thinks" that you brandished it, ie touched it in an argument, the police and courts will push it and if lucky, you will only be out a few thousand for a lawyer and still have the right to own a gun. You are free to carry it with limits, but the bleeding hearts are out there and that includes the media. I dropped my subscription to the Nashua paper as I saw no sense in supporting an organization that was out to destroy my beliefs. Get a high ranking in press freedom.
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  14. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Yeah, man. Anything that close to Mass is gonna be filled with Libs. Manchester and up is where NH is great. Anything south greatly depreciates as you draw closer to Boston commuters. Rough place, Nashua. Twenty or Thirty years ago, it was still nice.
  15. Airtime

    Airtime Monkey+++

    Check again. Personal Freedom garners 29.4% of the overall rating. Incarcerations that figure into the overall Personal Freedom dimension comprise 6.6% of the number.
  16. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Newly updated results - Florida now number one. I'm shocked that AK isn't in the top 5, from a practical perspective it has to be number 1 regardless of state policies. The big government social policies of the West Coast states continues their decline. Oregon and Washington will likely have further firearm restrictions next year. Washington residents who have been following I-594 know the fix is in after courts reversed themselves and allowed illegally gathered petition signatures to be accepted "just this one time". Oregon gets a brand new gun control group headed by an Anheiser Busch heir with oodles and oodles of money to buy our enumerated rights.

    How free is your state?

    Rankings and relative change:
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2018
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  17. Oddcaliber

    Oddcaliber Monkey+++

    Louisiana ranks 30 at a -4. How ever we can still do a person to person gun sale without government help!
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  18. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Hey, Never needed .Gubbers in my business before,Still don't need .Gubbers in my business now.....hahaha
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  19. Byte

    Byte Monkey+++

    That -4 represents the 4 places it's fallen since last update. It means that your freedoms are being eroded... Ranked 30th isn't all that good to start with though.

    My Montana is up 8 spots. That's a huge jump! Not nearly enough for me and how the blazes are we being beat out by Virginia? Something in their math seems off...

    What I don't understand is how Colorado can be anywhere near as high as it is... The dumbycrats there have destroyed the state. They are a political nightmare now. Figured Utah would be higher too.

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