How to make a water filtering system in the forest

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by melvin west, Jun 16, 2018.


  1. melvin west

    melvin west Monkey

    80% of all illness in developing countries is caused by polluted water. It is estimated that two million people die from these illnesses every year.

    To make a water filter in the forest is not simple, aborigines have to collect many materials from dangerous places.

    The water filter unit is designed as a point-of-entry system that filters water directly as it enters a home plumbing system from a municipal or private well water source.

    Most water filters use a four-stage filtration system. The first stage of filtration removes any sediment materials in the water that may clog the filter, reducing its effectiveness. The second stage then uses a chemical process called water atomization to alter the molecular structure of chlorine and turn it into the harmless molecule, zinc chloride. The third and fourth stages of filtration involve bituminous-activated carbon and coconut-shell activated carbon media to filter pesticides, remnants of biological matter, and other harmful chemicals. Bituminous-activated carbon is currently the best available technology for filtration purposes.

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  2. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    First this is worthless for most people who do not have access to bamboo. in this video we are not being told the specific wood/s to use for making the charcoal and, charcoal in lumps is worthless as water has a capillary action that tends not to go through but around medium. They did not bake the sand ? what sand does not have critters in it ? and the rocks what are they suppose to filter out bigger rocks ? materials from dangerous places ? THEY LIVE IN A JUNGLE IT'S ALL DANGEROUS IT IS NOT THE MALL ! Aborigines do not live in the jungle they live in an arid desert on the edge of a semi tropical swamp in some cases.

    Wild yeast is also a problem with maintaining clean potable water this apparatus does nothing to mitigate this in fact it 4 holes to allow birds to get in and crap bugs flies and wasps to get a drink and they carry on their little legs a festival of bad bad germs. in this case they would be better off with a tea pot and boil that shit tell them I was impressed with the Levi's cargo pants and leather belts.

    Bamboo is naturally mildly radioactive and contains Cyanide that is why shoots are cooked to leach out gaseous cyanide I think that what kept early people safe was they had to cook it or it was too tough to eat.

    It would have served them better to take a rod and beat out all but the last section fill the first foot with finely crushed charcoal and pack in 3 foot of fine baked sand penetrate the bottom with tiny hols to keep the charcoal in and allow it to drip through over time the upper would hold water and strain through over night. you can also just fill a section and place it in the fire allow the water to boil strain it through cloth and drink it.

    Below you can see the food value of it bamboo and white rice, its a filler white rice at least has Iron 10% so you would have to eat 10 cups to get your daily value of iron consider both of these natures Styrofoa.

    Vitamins bamboo shoots
    Amounts Per Selected Serving 4 ounces
    %DV
    Vitamin A
    0.0
    IU
    0%
    Vitamin C
    0.0
    mg
    0%
    Vitamin D
    ~
    ~
    Vitamin E (Alpha Tocopherol)
    ~
    ~
    Vitamin K
    ~
    ~
    Thiamin
    0.0
    mg
    2%
    Riboflavin
    0.1
    mg
    4%
    Niacin
    0.4
    mg
    2%
    Vitamin B6
    0.1
    mg
    6%
    Folate
    2.4
    mcg
    1%
    Vitamin B12
    0.0
    mcg
    0%
    Pantothenic Acid
    0.1
    mg
    1%

    White rice each stalk produces up to 300 grains each about 3 stalks per plant + or - it takes between 6,000 and 1,800 kernels to make a cup of rice depends on species of rice as I am sure of all the rest of this info basically it is not an easy way to make a living or sustain yourself.

    Serving Size: 1 cup of cooked
    Amount Per Serving
    Calories from Fat 4
    Calories 204

    % Daily Values*
    Total Fat 0.44g 1%
    Saturated Fat 0.12g 1%
    Polyunsaturated Fat 0.119g
    Monounsaturated Fat 0.138g
    Cholesterol 0mg 0%
    Sodium 577mg 24%
    Potassium 55mg
    Total Carbohydrate 44.08g 15%
    Dietary Fiber 0.6g 2%
    Sugars 0.08g
    Protein 4.2g

    Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 0%
    Calcium 2% Iron 10%
     
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  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Reference, please.

    Also, please note that some areas in the southern states DO have bamboo, even if it is a different variety than what is found in the OP's obvious SEA location.
    Bamboo Set to go Big on U.S. Farmland
    It is considered invasive, but it is here.
     
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  4. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    yea and I got it if it's not kept cut it will overtake any area the best time to kill it is when it is less than a foot tall and use 24D double strength as far as radiation levels it about like bananas but it is there and to the type I would have to do some deep digging I have to read for ny research on other things and as part of that I stumbled on a white paper for using bamboo leaves in an epoxy to make a laminated material.
     
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  5. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    Since water isn't an atom and the other "atomization" is nothing more than finely misting...how is this going to alter the molecular structure of something that may not even be present? And if you look into zinc chloride, I wouldn't exactly call it harmless:

    "Zinc chloride is a white crystalline solid. It is soluble in water. It is corrosive to metals and therefore irritating to the skin, eyes and mucous membranes. It is used for preserving wood, in soldering fluxes, as a catalyst in chemical metals and manufacturing, and for many other uses."
     
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  6. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    When I was a kid (in the 60s) we drank from a creek and shallow wells all the time and never got sick. In those days there were not the contaminants we have today and the volumes of people invading the woods leaving their trash behind, not to mention precipitation accumulated from other contaminated waters.
    During the Fukushima event (still in process) steam was lifted into the clouds and traveled across the pacific and deposited on the US even to the east coast. With all the volcanic activity recently it is likely that there are those contaminants being distributed across the globe as well .
    That said , modern means of filtration become necessary, not optional .. also modern means of testing become all the more important.
    I do not trust the city waters and have 2 filters on my system , one a whole house filter and Britta filters on the kitchen and bathroom faucets . I know they work because they need replaced regularly, and the slime that is accumulated is disgusting .
    In the event there is the need to begin filtering water after my reserves have been spent ,I have assembled a filter bucket with screens and filtering media the last portion of which is activated charcoal acquired from tropical fish supplies.
    And even this would go through paper filters both before the filter and after word . I have a steri pen as well just as an added measure of safety .
    Second issue often forgotten is maintaining the container your putting filtered water into .
     
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  7. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    Ultimately, you filter the water through a rough sieve to remove the visible crude, then you drip it thru crushed charcoal to remove the invisible crud and most biological contaminants.

    Then the water should be boiled to kill off anything still alive, and boil off any trace volatiles like ammonia (if still present).

    Then you can drink it, and either live or die.

    If you want to exclude Option #2, you pretty much have to distill the water, keeping (in the worst case scenarios) only the second and third fourths of the runoff.

    As you start your crude filtering process, it's usually wise to run the first water through at least twice before the final boil.

    If you're dealing with seawater, distillation is your only practical recourse, barring the reverse-osmosis pumps that most people don't have ready access to.

    The only water I know of on this planet that hasn't been contaminated by man-made nuclear waste is the fossil water from icebergs. It was laid down long before we blew up part of New Mexico, the Port of New Chicago, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki.

    Which was just the beginning...
     
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  8. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    youtube is like a bear trap in the woods it will spring and get anyone that is not careful and use that information.
     
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  9. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Check that. Saying that most biological contaminants will be removed by charcoal is incorrect. Most organic chemical compounds, yes, viri and bacterial no. Charcoal isn't really a physical filter, it acts to adsorb chemicals. Some biological things might get hung up, but the pores in charcoal "filters" are actually larger than in sand filters (rather than the "rough sieves" you mentioned.) It is extremely important that solids are removed before the charcoal, otherwise the pores in the charcoal will be blinded and render the bed useless.
    Yes to a final boil if there is any way for "stuff" to enter the stream after primary, secondary (and any follow on) treatment. USUALLY, ammonia escapes with a simple aeration step, as will chlorine if that is a concern chez vous.
     
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