I am so sick of the blind, stupid sheeple in this country!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gunsmith, Apr 10, 2011.


  1. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+

    The Republicants are not our friends, name me one Republicant who actually stands up for 'we the people'. We don't have a two party system, we have a one party system and they are out for themselves. 'We the people' DO NOT count. All they want to do is line there pockets with our 'money'. Their whole attitude is, 'Horrah for me and f@#$ you.' The time for a real change passed along time ago, before most of us were even born. If my grandparents had told that communist SOB FDR to stop and then forced him to stop we might not be in this position today. If they had refused to accept the Federal Reserve System (which is neither Federal, nor a Reserve) and stuck to the Gold Standard we wouldn't be in this position. If they had told the Supreme Court to piss off when they took prayer out of the public schools we wouldn't be in this position. I could go on and on. It's way to late to put a stop to what is going down in this country today.
    Name one person that you are willing to get behind and RISK YOUR NECK for that can actually stop what is going on and turn us back to the Constitution. I cannot name that person and I know you can't. We need a National Figure and there isn't one. There are no George Washingtons, Thomas Jeffersons, George Masons, etc. We can talk all we want to about this, but, while we agree we need to stand by the Constitution, we actually stand seperately. If the Fuds surrounded me, killed my wife and dog, shot my kid in the back and eventually arrested me. Most of the people on all of the gun and survival boards would 'tsk, tsk' and go on with there daily lives. Why, because they feel it doesn't affect them and the gun barrel isn't pointed at their head.
    So, while we spout anger and point our fingers and scream and yell, write angry posts about the injustice in this country. Without that National Figure, we cannot and will not actually stand together and stop the BS brought about by our 'one party' system. I hate to say it but this country is a dead stick
     
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  2. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Sounds pretty accurate to me. Baaaaaaa. You too. Say it, baaaaaaa baaaaaa.
    .
    Who will lead us? ...... Us sheep, US SHEEP ALL !!!
     
  3. franks71vw

    franks71vw Monkey+++

    Only oe i would consider is ROn Paul... but then again...seesaw
     
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  4. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Both him and his son, Rand
     
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  5. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+

    Ok, Ron Paul, but are your willing to risk your neck and the life of your family for him. That and he has absolutely no military back ground, we need a leader to draw the people together, to stand up to the BS in Washington. Nope not him and he's OLD. Give me somebody truly worthwhile.
     
  6. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+

    I know that Rand holds to the same philosophies as his father, but a politician cannot and will not take us back to the founding principles of this country. Politicians are interested in one thing only, $ and lots of it. That is the only thing they truly care about. I want someone to take us back to where we used to be. LIBERTY and that is all that truly matters.
     
  7. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    So you think these guys are in it to be politicians? I don't.
     
  8. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+

    So what are they in in for?
     
  9. spud

    spud Monkey++

    Life is good
     
  10. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King Site Supporter

    As I remember, Dr. Ron was a flight surgeon...so has as much military experience as most.

    Not that I find military experience all that relevant.
     
  11. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    It's hard to defend what you believe in with the pen when you must put yourself in the role of a politician, even when you are ideologically, NOT a politician in the sense of you want to make a career out of it.

    I'm near certain you speak of the "Career politician", who's only goal in life was to become a "Politician" and stay a "Politician". These tow gentlemen, I'm equally certain, would sooner step down once the Republic is restored than to seek re-election repeatedly. I'm not infallible in my opinion of them, but they just don't seem like they come from the same mold as 99.9% of the others in D.C.
     
  12. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+

    Oh, don't get me wrong, we are preparing for the worst. Got out of dept, bought this little piece of land here, lived in tents for a couple of months while we built the shell of the house (which still isn't done) work our tail bones to the nub and beyond. I just wanted to know where most folks stood on this issue. I'm a member of another board and when I post this type of topic, most of the cowards on that board won't touch it with a mile long pole.
    So I guess you could say I was just venting, also trying to get a feel for this board. I haven't been here very long and wanted to see what kind of response I would get, etc.
     
  13. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+


    Your correct, military experience isn't all that relevant. However, military experience DOES help to fire up people at a certain level. If you look through the board, how many people use quotes from military people that they have admired?
     
  14. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Gunsmith, Lets say that I decided to run with the following platform.

    Bring our boys and girls back from the sandbox and put them in charge of border security. And yes, if they are between the wires in no mans land, shooting is ok. Gotta stay in practice some how.

    Stop foreign aid (we could use it here at home)

    Scale back military spending because we don't need all of the stuff because we are not going to be the worlds police force any more. let the UN handle that.

    Speaking of the UN, HQ is going to have to move out. I hear Europe is a nice place.

    We can still build some long range fighters and refurb our current military for emergencies. Hey here is a novel idea, pay our military folks a living wage? Wow that would be novel. Plus not being deployed over seas for long tours, maybe the will want to stay in the military to provide security as a life long career.

    Abolish the TSA, put the military in charge of airport security, cargo screening and investigation of passengers. Seems the dufus' in the TSA can't recognize a gun anyway. Let's put someone with experience in there.

    Flat tax, nationwide. 2 tier.
    15% for those making up and including 100k
    35% for those over 100k

    with eligibility for deducting home interest on primary home mortgage of 400k or less for both wage brackets.

    Now with the money that will be freed up from paying the IRS agents and TSA we can put them on the street like the rest of the population has been for the last few years. The federal govt will hire them back at 1/3rd their previous wage and they can put on the orange smocks and clean up along the roadside.

    Elected officials do not get lifetime insurance nor pensions , they need to go back to work and get a real job that offers a 401k that they need to build themselves. and buy their own insurance just like the rest of us.

    While they are in elected office they will receive the same benefits as those offered to the prisoners in jail, the jail staff, and any other public servant in any municipality. The basic plain jane vanilla HMO coverage that came in as the low cost bidder.

    Inmates of correctional institutions will be required to provide community service like, road maintenance, trash clean up, park beatification, trail maintenance, cleaning rivers and beaches.

    Their menu will always be the same.
    dehydrated eggs, toast, coffee, milk, juice from concentrate in the morning
    baloney sandwich , fruit, chips and sport drink for lunch
    meatloaf, mash potatoes, salad, and bread with milk,water,coffee or juice for dinner.
    If they want to add stuff to the menu, they have to grow it or raise it on the prison farm.

    By golly, that is the same menu at all govt offices and cafeteria. If elected that will be what is at the white house too. When we have special guests from overseas Me and the Missus will do the grilling and pay for the food out of our own pockets. Probably Steak, Pork Chops or fish. And if one of them is a vegetarian or something ridiculous like that, i'll grill up some peppers and squashes for them, Their will be some cowboy potatoes (parboiled potatoes with green onions, butter, some salt and pepper wrapped in tin foil thrown next to the meat to grill too) and a salad.

    Pay rates for govt service.
    Those need some adjusting too. Not sure what it will shake out to be but it might look something like below.
    Highest pay rate in military is 4x lowest pay rate.
    Representative in House 60k plus 15k for lodging and meals in DC
    Senator 80k plus 15k for lodging and meals in DC
    But we will have dormatories available for sleeping. Nice bunk units. With Internet access, showers, kitchen and entertainment center and bar (BYOB).
    Department head or Cabinet Secretary same as senator
    Supreme Court Justice 150k
    assistants to above, 50k
    VP 150k and they get their own quarters in the white house for them and their family.
    Pres. 240k

    I'm sure there are a lot of other things i'd like to fix but that is the basic plan I intend to run on.

    But, You will not vote for me because I do not have any military experience? How sad.

    Edit: after writing that really long post i see that you stated that Mil. Experience isn't all that important. Drat, I was trying to see how staunch you were on that position. Cause even though i've got no mil experience, i know how important the men and women in the military are and that we shouldn't be throwing their lives away for stupid reasons.
     
  15. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+

    I don't know for sure that Ron and Rand are career politicians. I do know that Ron has been a Representative for a number of years. I've listened to alot of Ron speaches and I'll admit I do admire alot of what he has said, but he still hasn't changed a thing. I know he is only one man and one man cannot change a cesspool by himself.
    That wasn't the topic I was trying to get across however. Is Ron or Rand Paul the kind of man you are willing to die for? I have a friend, more of a brother really, I would die for him, but not for Ron or Rand. No, I wouldn't. I'm talking of a strong, charasmatic leader that could unite true Americans back to the Constitutional Republic we used to be.
     
  16. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+


    Well, I'm not overly staunch on the military thing. However, the problem is that the powers that be WILL NOT let you or anybody else run on that platform. If you did manage to make it to the final process of the voting and you happened to win, well, they would kill you. As far as I'm concerned the political voting process is dead. You just cannot get decent people to run, the ones that do, all they want to do is get rich. I'm not going to say what I'm thinking here as I believe that certain thoughts can get you a visit from the FUD. But I think you know where I'm going with my thoughts.
     
  17. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Ron has been in a political role for quite some time and has maintained his platform every single year he served. It's only been now that people are listening to him in greater detail. Is he charismatic, not particularly.. not exactly a "strong" personality ala Churchill. You never know, however, what can come out of someone when people are willing to follow enough to commit him to leadership. That being said, I don't think these are the droids you're looking for. That charismatic, tiger, personality hasn't been seen in a long time.
     
  18. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+

    Yes, that's what I'm saying. Although we look up to George Washington and other founding fathers, alot of them weren't 'tiger personalities' either. If I remember correctly, George Washington's first major military action he was defeated soundly. I could be wrong there. Like I said earlier, I'm just venting and wanted to have a really good political discussion, which I have gotten. There are some pretty sharp folks here and I'm impressed.
     
  19. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    But if they killed me, after the vote of the people said that's what they wanted, Well, there might be a change for the better as the people rise up and take back the government OR i'd wind up as a footnote in history.

    That being said, I'd be wearing some ballistic kevlar and be concealed carry just in case.
     
  20. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Monkey+

    I here you there, but quite honestly, if you did win and they killed you, I think the vast majority of the sheeple in this country would shrug and go on. That better be class 3 kevlar though, with ballistic plates. Armor piercing rounds will punch through regular vests without ballistic plates. When are your going to run?
     
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