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I Have a Friend Who Doesn't Believe in Space Aliens.

Discussion in 'Tin Foil Hat Lounge' started by UncleMorgan, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    Other than that, he's a pretty intellegent fellow. Problem is, I think, that he's led a sheltered life. Every now and then, when he comes over, I start talking about the Space Aliens, and his eyes start showin' the whites all around, and he gets all nervous.

    Sorta like a spooked horse.

    But it's all good.

    I don't even show him the videos any more.

    We have more fun discussing Forbidden Archeology. He doesn't get all spooked by that..

    He asked me one time if I really believed in Flying Saucers, and I had to abmit I didn't.

    You see, Belief requires Faith, and operates in the absence of Knowledge.

    See, almost nobody believes their eyes are blue, or brown, or whatever they see when thay look in a mirror.

    They know the color they see is a fact, and belief has nuthin' to do with it.

    So I guess Knowledge has a way of dismissing Faith, destroying Belief, and replacing them both with Fact.

    I'm good with that,

    Anybody wants to dismiss a little Faith and soak up a little Fact should watch the movie
    The Fourth Kind, filmed in 2009 and starring Milla Jovovitch.

    You'll probably never believe in Space Aliens again...
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  2. fmhuff

    fmhuff Monkey+++

    Only one friend who doesn't believe?
  3. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    Come t think of it, I don't discuss the subject very often. I'm sure I have friends that lean both ways, and a few with no opinions either way. To each their own, I guess. Not much point in trying to change people's beliefs. I've known a few people that claimed to have been physically aducted. One in particular was strange enough to be very believable.

    This person told me that after several years of regular abductions, and having a red glowing object implanted in one eyeball, he finally made up his mind to put a stop to it. On a night he figured they'd come to check his "eye-camera" (which they removed and replaced regularly) he locked all his doors, nailed them and the windows shut, and strapped a loaded .45 automatic into his hand. He said he was determined to kill at least one in the hope it would make the rest leave him alone.

    Around 3AM he said he discovered he was paralyzed and couldn't even blink, much less pull a trigger. He said three Greys walked straight in through his bedroom wall, took out his eye-camera, and left the same way they came.

    And they never came back again.

    He thought they had decided he had become too dangerous to mess with. Or they got all the eye-pictures they wanted. Fifteen years later, he still couldn't sleep at night. Stayed up all night, every night. Slept during the day. Couldn't shake the memories. Or the fear.
  4. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    I thought all of the Fourth Kind movies were extremely interesting. The thought of being abducted in the way the movies depict is terrorizing. Perhaps that's the point, some may think, but lots of folks seem to believe it has happened to them. There are always the weirdos, though. I am certain some people do it just for attention. I have to take abductions on faith, since I haven't been abducted to my knowledge...but as for the existence of aliens, one only has to take into account the vastness of the universe and common sense should pretty much win on that front. To think we are the ONLY sentient life in all the galaxies with billions of stars is kind of, well -insane. But, I do not say this to offend anybody, just to illustrate my point. Oh, by the way, a great mini series is called "Taken" by Spielberg, which spans 4 generations and 5 decades and is very well done. It's fiction, of course, but should entertain as well as get you thinking.

    As for personal experience, it's my own and I cannot expect others to take my word for the crazy sh&t I have seen in the night sky. We're talking fiery red spacecraft shaped like eagles and pyramids, at distant and close range. Looked like nothing Earthly to me, but there's always a possibility it could be advanced humans from the future or an alternate universe, even inter-dimensional beings. And the subject of Greys living deep inside the Earth, well...again, that's strange...yet the military has restricted plenty of areas and indeed have tunneled deep into the Earth, making underground cities. I guess that's what makes a great conspiracy theory, having some truth to build from.

    I just skip all the nonsense and take in the incredible scope of the universe. We're definitely not alone.
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  5. Tully Mars

    Tully Mars Metal weldin' monkey Site Supporter+

    Doesn't sound crazy to me :D bird of prey.
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  6. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Cannot believe there are not some forms of life in the unbelievably large universe. Whether they are advanced or not is another issue---who knows. If you have followed the Hubble telescope's travels you cannot but be amazed at the vast numbers of galaxies that reflect thousands of planets. Some of these galaxies dwarf our tiny speck of the universe.
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  7. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    Once when I was at a friend's around Halloween, around midnight they turned radio station on, and the program was about aliens. I know they said there are blue and grey aliens, one is friendly and helpful, the other is toxic to the touch, and I can't remember which is which, so when they come in force, we'll be in big trouble cause I won't know which one to side with.
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  8. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    I like Milla Jovanovich
    Anything she's in has to be true or else she wouldn't play the part!
    I know that doesn't help much but hey I like Milla.
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  9. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    I've read a lot on the subject, and talked to a lot of people. Saw an alien space craft once. Got a REAL good look at it.

    I'm of the suspicion that there's an interstellar war (or unimaginable equivalent) going on, and we are one of the backwaters that just happens to have strategic value. Like one of the smaller Pacific atolls in WWII.

    You'd think that any species that could travel between the stars would have their material needs pretty well covered. So they aren't here for our tin or our diamonds. Hell, it's raining diamonds the size of Volkswagens on Neptune. And there's plenty of everything in the asteroid belt. With on locals to have to deal with.

    At least no Earthies. The Belt could be densely inhabited, for all I know.

    That pretty much leaves exotics like spices, or DNA, or tasty dishes, if their interest in us is commercial. Or motives we may not ever be able to understand if it's political or social. We'll probably find out pretty soon if any of them consider us edible. Other than individually, I mean.

    Apparently there are quite a few ET species out there, and a lot of them are visiting us. Some friendly, some not-so, and some downright malevolent. And they range in appearance from Greys, to Reptilians, to a Nordic type that are indistinguishable from ordinary people. And several others.

    The Nordics apparently have the major governments of the world scared silly because there's no way to tell if or how much we've been infiltrated by them.

    Over the last thirty years the censorship has been slowly decreasing, allowing the public to at least get acclimated to the concept of alien life on Earth. I think that within ten years we'll see alien Ambassadors addressing the UN.

    And probably not as our equals.

    What really bothers me is that none of them have stepped up and offered to show us (or sell us) a way to clean up Fukushima. So either they don't want to or they aren't allowed to.

    Neither of which cases bode well for the future of Homo Sapiens.

    On the other hand, they haven't been dropping rocks on us, except maybe a couple in Russia. So they can't be all bad.
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  10. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Did you guys know that Gold only comes from a supernova?
    Its properties are kind of magnificent. We have quite a bit. Think about that one a while.
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  11. DKR

    DKR Interesting ideas, interesting stories

    I always kinda figured there was space creatures (aliens) stopping by Earth - how else can you explain hippies?
  12. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

  13. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    We have surpassed the Supernova.

    In the late 70s-early 80's some Russians were sent into a nuclear reactor to repair a badly cracked containment vessel. They found that the reactor had been leaking neutrons--beaming them on the cracked area of the containment vessel. What caused the cracking was a lot of the steel being transmuted into about 12 tons of radioactive gold. The neutron beam had rearranged the atomic structure of the steel. Not willing to waste 12 tons of free gold, the Russians pulled it all out, diluted it to "safe" levels by mixing it with ordinary mined gold and sold it on the open market.

    Then they did the Happy Ruble Dance.

    Interesting article about nuclear transmutation at Synthesis of precious metals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
  14. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    I would dispute that Russia Story, completely.... as there is no KNOWN transmutation path between Steel (Iron & Carbon) and Gold, and I do NOT think that the vessel was built out of Platinum, or Mercury, which do have a Transmutation Path to Gold... Someone is pulling your Scientific Leg...... and telling Tails....

    Oh yea, if that was a TRUE Story, the Vessel would have Failed, Catastrophically in a mechanical way, due to the Gold, being significantly softer, and weaker than the Steel, that was around it..... It would have BLOWN Out a long before it formed a Crack,. especially if there were 12 TONs of it.... My considered opinion..... YMMV....
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  15. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

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  16. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

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  17. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I eat vegetables. My friends are not vegetables.

    You could be right. I'm very gullible, even for a gorilla.
    Hell, I'll believe anything for a cocoanut.
  18. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Interesting many of these sightings took place on March 31 in various years. My own red-orange triangle sighting was on March 31, 2000.

    What I saw (image made by myself)
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  19. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    Dat art work broker. Lol. =)
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  20. MountainMariner

    MountainMariner Clearly Ambiguous

    Anyone ever contemplate that there may be space aliens who don't believe in humans?
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