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I won't taser you; scouts honor

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Tango3, May 16, 2009.

  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    here's Obama's civilian defense force farm league:

    <nyt_headline version="1.0" type=" "> Scouts Train to Fight Terrorists, and More </nyt_headline>

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    Explorers ready to enter a building taken by terrorists, in an exercise. More Photos >

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    <nyt_byline version="1.0" type=" "> By JENNIFER STEINHAUER
    </nyt_byline> Published: May 13, 2009
    <!--NYT_INLINE_IMAGE_POSITION1 --> IMPERIAL, Calif. — Ten minutes into arrant mayhem in this town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people, one slumped in his desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.
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    In a training exercise run by Border Patrol agents, Explorer scouts from Visalia, Calif., prepare to storm a “hijacked” bus. More Photos »

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    Imperial County relies on the local criminal justice system. More Photos >

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    <script type="text/JavaScript" language="JavaScript">if (acm.rc) acm.rc.write();</script> The responding officers — eight teenage boys and girls, the youngest 14 — face tripwire, a thin cloud of poisonous gas and loud shots — BAM! BAM! — fired from behind a flimsy wall. They move quickly, pellet guns drawn and masks affixed.
    “United States Border Patrol! Put your hands up!” screams one in a voice cracking with adolescent determination as the suspect is subdued.
    It is all quite a step up from the square knot.
    The Explorers program, a coeducational affiliate of the Boy Scouts of America that began 60 years ago, is training thousands of young people in skills used to confront terrorism, illegal immigration and escalating border violence — an intense ratcheting up of one of the group’s longtime missions to prepare youths for more traditional jobs as police officers and firefighters.
    “This is about being a true-blooded American guy and girl,” said A. J. Lowenthal, a sheriff’s deputy here in Imperial County, whose life clock, he says, is set around the Explorers events he helps run. “It fits right in with the honor and bravery of the Boy Scouts.”
    The training, which leaders say is not intended to be applied outside the simulated Explorer setting, can involve chasing down illegal border crossers as well as more dangerous situations that include facing down terrorists and taking out “active shooters,” like those who bring gunfire and death to college campuses. In a simulation here of a raid on a marijuana field, several Explorers were instructed on how to quiet an obstreperous lookout.
    “Put him on his face and put a knee in his back,” a Border Patrol agent explained. “I guarantee that he’ll shut up.”

  2. Cephus

    Cephus Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Having them go over and over this will give them muscle memory and reflex memory ,
    They won't even think just do what they have trained for .

    It's a SAD day that the scouts have come to this .
  3. ikean

    ikean Monkey++

    damn, my explorer post studied native American stuff did beading and danced @pow wows...met my wife there though!
  4. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    I find this rather disturbing. But I would...

    " The whole world has gone insane save for for me and thee! and sometimes I wonder about thee a bit....:0
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