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Discussion in 'Firearms' started by sniper-66, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Can anyone ID this? Just so there is no confusion on the color, this is a military 7.62 round and the color is a light purple, ever seen this before? What is it, this isn't a trick or joke, it is real. What are your guesses?
  2. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    THe start of a "gay" joke??

    no idea
  3. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

  4. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

  5. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    [FONT=verdana,arial]Armour Piercing Tracer Type B T. [/FONT][FONT=verdana,arial]This was a flat based bullet weighing 157 grains. The forward part of the envelope was filled with a steel core, the rear holding a tracer canister. Identification was by means of a purple bullet tip.[/FONT]

    <table bordercolorlight="#000000" bordercolordark="#000000" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th colspan="3" bgcolor="#cccc99">[FONT=verdana,arial]Soviet bullet tip color codes for the 7.62x54R[/FONT]</th> </tr> <tr> <th>[FONT=verdana,arial]Bullet Tip Color[/FONT]</th> <th>[FONT=verdana,arial]Bullet Type[/FONT]</th> <th>[FONT=verdana,arial]Bullet Weight[/FONT]</th> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]None[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Ball[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]148gr.[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Yellow[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Heavy Ball[/FONT]</td> <td bordercolor="#000000" bordercolorlight="#000000" bordercolordark="#000000">[FONT=verdana,arial]182gr.[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Silver[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Light Ball[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Green[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Tracer[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]148gr.[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Black[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]B-30 AP[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]170gr.[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Black w/Red Band[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]B-32 API[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]155gr.[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Red Bullet & Casemouth
    Black Casehead & Black Tip
    [/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]BS-40 API[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]187gr.[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Purple w/Red[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Type BZT, API-T[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]142gr.[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Red w/Red Primer[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Type ZP, HEI Ranging[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Green Bullet, Casehead,
    & Casemouth
    [/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Sub-sonic (pre-1941)[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Green Tip & Green Primer[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Practice Ball (post-1941)[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]60gr.[/FONT]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Copper Cap[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]Pre-1930 AP[/FONT]</td> <td>[FONT=verdana,arial]167gr.[/FONT]</td></tr></tbody></table>
  6. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Blackjack, it's NATO, not Ruskie. It's sitting on the feed tray of a M-240H, so American. Now, Tango got it right, but can you tell me why it is purple and not the standard orange? We normally shoot orange tracer, but got a lot of this stuff. Tracer is normally a 4:1 mix, but this stuff is 8:1 mix. Guesses? The headstamp shows LC 06'
  7. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    Ok, I thought it was enemy ordnance you found.

    Tracer every 8 and a different color? My only guess would be it has something to do with night vision gear (didn't use it while I was in... stone age).

    Does too much/too bright interfere with NVG?
  8. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    That is it, it is a IR tracer for firing with NVG's. next time we go fly night, I'm going to schedule a night test fire to see how well they work.
    the regular tracers are pretty bright, especially for the gunners.
  9. KCwelder

    KCwelder Monkey+++

    LC 06 =Lake City 2006. ........................I think.
  10. monkeyman

    monkeyman Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I guess this is a bit OT, but I was just wondering, how do the newer NV gogles and such deal with light? A friend of mine used the very earliest NV stuff and from what he said if you were looking at someone with the old stuff even from a distance and they struck a match it would nearly blind you and would blow a fuse in the NV gear that then had to be replaced before it would work any more. I was just curious if that type of stuff had been taken care of or if someone with a flash light would still blow NV stuff or say weapons fire be blinding through it?
  11. sniper-66

    sniper-66 Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Ya, things are much better now, we fly over Baghdad all the time and it is lit up like a Christmas tree. If a LZ is lit up with so much side light, I can turn the landing light on and overpower the others and still see, so they are greatly improved. If the light is so bright, they will automatically adjust for that and tone it down to acceptable levels.

    Yes, Lake City in 2006 is correct.
  12. KCwelder

    KCwelder Monkey+++

    Grew up about 5 miles from lake city. The sound of the thes fires used to put me to sleep.
    There's nothing like the sound of large caliber rounds being expended at high rates of fire.[touchdown]
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