Instead of killing game for food

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by arleigh, May 11, 2017.

  1. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    In stead of killing game for food why not capture it and raise it .
    1, eliminated the need for refrigeration .
    2.meat stays fresh till you need it.
    3. being fed on grains you approve, will both ensure it's health and taste better.
    4. does not require firing shot ,necessarily ,thus not exposing ones self .
    I've caught wild squirrels and kept them a while ,
    Ideally id like to domesticate them for food, and maintain them in a controlled environment.
    if they are maintained in a controlled environment , they won't be exposed to out side diseases .
    Their meat has a wonderful nutty flavor , which I assume comes from the grains the eat .
    But the same thing can be done with a lot of wild animals, and eventually be just like cattle.
    1. it is a source of food for the present and
    2. a preservation of the species for the future.
  2. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    The idea has much going for it as a means of making best use of trapped game. The degree to which it may be practical to keep a menagerie of trapped animals as a living food store may vary from species to species....certainly cats and dogs are doable propositions under certain curcumstances....though in any environment short of TEOTWAWKI...or a PAW, in some places, legal jurisdictions may take a dim view of such an enterprise. Although the Law may be a may have some minimum requirements for health care, confinement and slaughtering the ass one might butcher for the cooking pot. :eek:
  3. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    As i understand it wild/feral hogs are in 40 plus states and considered to be nuisance animals. Here in Florida I know of many trappers who catch them alive in groups from 5 to 30. Obviously the piglets could rather easily be domesticated. The larger specimens could be transported alive (against Fl. law at present w/o major oversight and regulation). Or your tribe could be contacted to come reap of the harvest and any not killed for food or taken to raise up, could be released for future harvest. If proper facilities were available to process for reasonable stable storage until it could be bartered or sold also. Check the youtube videos on hog trapping. it is not rocket science.
  4. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I know some will say it is against the law but I think it is an interesting idea. Not sure how you would pen in the bigger game.
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I can tell you from impractical experience that hogs are canny and will either find an easy way out of a fenced in area, or dig out, or will simply batter the fence. One of my guys on a job in WA raised pigs, and about three times a year he'd get called home in the middle of the day for a round up. Granted, his pigs were larger than these ferals that are taking over the lands, but still, the brain power is the same. He had a 400 lb boar that would NOT be dissuaded from going walkabout, railroad timbers in his way or not.

    All that does NOT mean that the idea is unsound ----
  6. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    All things relevant,
    deer and other animals would be kept in full enclosures,they can jump some high fencing,and you really don't want other see what you've got going on. Post SHTF .
    It would be imperative to have sufficient green housing for growing food. both for your self. and your critters. and have enough seed to replace the damaged vegetation that occurs during disasters. .
    This could not be a one person effort , there is just to much involved .
    The tough part is snoopy people that think its their business to get into your business .
  7. Bishop

    Bishop Monkey+++

    I have raised wild hogs for food the boar are cut and turned in to Barr's so they will get big and fat and lose the gamey smell and taste
    Last edited: May 11, 2017
  8. Byte

    Byte Monkey+++

    Lol! 10,000 yrs ago is calling. They want their idea back. Husbandry and domestication of animals is a pretty well understood concept already...

    Now you got me wanting a nice bloody steak! :cautious: Oh and a beer...or three. (y)
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  9. Airtime

    Airtime Monkey+++

    Isn't this typically called farming?

    Wild game present issues for fenced or confined feeding. Their reproductive cycles are often aligned with the seasons and may not be reproducing when you need them. They tend to be leaner and the pounds of meat per unit of labor to raise and harvest is significantly much lower than more conventional livestock. And if cages or pens are pre-constructed before SHTF, why not just put a couple domesticated livestock in those ahead of time? Just keep a few rabbits or goats, sell the offspring. Prep what you eat and eat what you prep. Cuts down on the food bill and you don't have to worry about trying to catch wild critters if the SHTF in mid January.

    That being said, I have stocked electric fencing (solar charger, wire, insulators, posts, etc.) that I got real cheap when a couple farm stores went out of business. Stashed in a few boxes on the top shop shelves. Figure could be used to keep critters in a fenced area or more likely to keep them out of my gardens if the need arises.

  10. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    What if you didnt cage them and did kind of like how they do in fish farming. Instead of fish farming it would be squirrel farming. Let them roam free but feed them.
    Keep them as semi wild pets that you can eat later on if need be lol.
  11. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    Pretty much what we do with deer at the farm.

    We do not hunt on or near the property and do not allow hunting on the property. We frequently find ourselves with excess corn, oats and salt licks that we discard in various areas of the land. We have just over 50 acres fenced and about 30 acres of "buffer" well posted (and a 20+ year local reputation for taking the posting seriously), creating something of a private game preserve. We frequently have groups of deer in sight of the deck and the dogs have been taught not to harass them (we do not grow our own veggies...the "farm" grows Douglas and Noble Fir for Christmas trees) and some have been known to play together. Some have even become accustomed to the sound of gunfire and will watch us shoot targets without being scared away.

    I figure that if SHTF, we will have a pretty good cushion of deer that are accustomed to the resources and safety we provide that will be there when the area around us is hunted out. We also have a good store of material for large animal snares and a couple of decent bow hunters (I am not one of them). This is not really a major component of our preps but more a potential addition to them that costs a couple hundred or so a year and also provides some entertainment during morning coffee on the deck.
  12. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Controlling the food source and protecting their existence .
    Fish farming is done in several isolated ponds and highly protected from theft and wild life .
    Their health can be checked regularly and anomalies can be removed in a timely manor .
    Many wild critters are tenacious enter and escape artists and nothing less than 360 top side and bottom need full security .
    I already have 20 or more chickens and working on getting more fish eventually .
    But with out making any provision for wild life preservation ,post SHTF it will all disappear faster then it did in 1929.
    In a ideal situation, several families would be involved in raising these animals and controlling their numbers as well.
    The whole community amongst other things would have a part in this preservation and learning to care for these animals.
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  13. Kingfish

    Kingfish Self Reliant

    Why not do it all ? This question was among the first we looked at so we decided to
    #1 buy a house on a lake so we could harvest the lake and its fish, game and plants
    #2 grow a garden
    #3 raise rabbits and chickens
    #4 learn to can food over a wood fire
    #5 heat with wood
    #6 Stock pile things like guns, ammo, rice and beans etc.
  14. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Where I live, we already do this, only with Moose.... One Moose will feed the whole community for a big chunk of the winter....
    So we ALL get Moose Permits each Fall, and whoever gets the first Moose, shares IT, along with all the Butchering and Packaging duties, with the community... Mooseburger is great for a winter meal... and then there is the King Crab right out front in the Inlet, Rock Fish, and Scallops, Shrimp, are also plentiful, and we share what we get with the rest of the community... Hot King Crab, right out of the cooker, is about the best Seafood, in this World....
  15. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu RIP 4/19/2018

    Wild game, if you don't want to farm from scratch, as in 10,000 years ago, salt licks are your friend!
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  16. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Or Fruit Orchards, are nice...
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  17. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    And so cheap to feed....only the occasional revenue agent is required. ;)
  18. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Or obnoxious FlatLander, who lost their way....
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  19. M118LR

    M118LR Caution: Does not play well with others.

    All the trappings of civilization, have we all lost the desire to boldly ride into the Bison Herd?
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  20. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I have a friend that uses his mastiff to catch wild hogs from Florida golf courses. The golf course managers pay him a bounty for each hog he captures and removes. The mastiff holds the hog and little Phillip will duct-tape the beast and drag it back to his truck then take it home and feed it for a few weeks to clean them out and get rid of parasites before slaughtering them.
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