Iowa house clears out public at public tax hearing

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  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20090331/NEWS/90331051
    potstartingto boil :

    BREAKING NEWS: Hundreds of Iowans thrown out of public hearing

    By JASON CLAYWORTH • jclayworth@dmreg.com • March 31, 2009
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    <!-- bodytext --> More than 500 people who are upset with a plan to change Iowa's tax laws were cleared from a hearing tonight at the Iowa House after they interrupted multiple times.

    House Speaker Pat Murphy, D-Dubuque, cleared the crowd at about 8:30 p.m. The decision brought about loud protests as the crowd was escorted from the chambers by Iowa State Patrol officers.
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    “This is the most atrocious thing I’ve seen in the history of the 15 years I’ve been a lobbyist. Pat Murphy has acted like a jack-booted Nazi,” said Ed Failor Jr., president of Iowans for Tax Relief, a conservative taxpayers’ rights group from Muscatine with 50,000 members..

    Failor Jr. was escorted from the House chambers after Murphy overheard him speak with the media.

    House rules say that no protesting or advocating can be done in the House.

    Murphy said he should have ordered the chambers cleared much sooner than he did, since several of the speakers were booed.

    “The idea behind the public hearing is to give people public input and allow people the ability to speak for and against the bill. This is not an athletic event,” Murphy said.

    After the majority of the public was removed, the scheduled speakers were allowed to continue. The hearing is scheduled to last until about 9:45 p.m.

    The proposal, House File 807 and Senate Study Bill 1317, would end a practice known as federal deductibility. That means Iowans could no longer subtract what they pay in federal income taxes from their income when figuring their state taxes.

    Ending federal deductibility without changing anything else would mean Iowans would pay an estimated $595 million more in taxes. However, Democrats have proposed a plan that would instead lower the state income tax rates and increase certain tax credits to offset the increase.

    Democrats have maintained that two-thirds of Iowans would either see a tax savings or no change at all in their taxes due to the proposal.

    Specific numbers show that 49 percent of Iowans who file taxes would get a break in the current tax year, while about 18 percent would see no change.

    The remainder – 450,292 people – would see a tax increase, according to the Iowa department of Revenue and Finance.



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    iowa_irish wrote:

    The reaction of the news media is as concerning as these people (which obviously by looking at them don't look like a mob--they're all your parents and grandparents, for God's sake) getting kicked out of this "public" hearing. No one in the media is questioning what is going on in our country with all of this out-of-control spending
     
  2. Cephus

    Cephus Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Yet another nail in the coffin of FREEDOM .
    So if the people can't be heard at a public
    meeting what should next be tried .
     
  3. Jay

    Jay Monkey++

    I have a feeling there will be lots more of this to come. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Look at the thread I posted under general discussion about the hub of civilization. I think I almost would rather be labeled a terrorist than an anarchist...tomato-tomatoe...surely couldn't be a bunch of regular folks pissed off about the .gov screwing with their lives?
     
  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

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  6. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    coming....
    fascism-799165.
     
  7. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    I want to go back to 1990...
     
  8. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    Its times like these that make the Clinton years look nice........wait, did I just say that?
     
  9. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    hmmmmm forgot about "wet"... er "slick" willy...and the missus..
     
  10. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Better if we could go back to 1790, politically! Long before the current faddish trend of Socialism/Communism/Fascism that the Liberal Left so adores. If only Mr. Jefferson had had the foresight to put a clause in The Constitution forbidding rampant Liberalism....... :rolleyes:
     
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