IPTV Anyone

Discussion in 'Financial Cents' started by T. Riley, Jun 18, 2018.


  1. T. Riley

    T. Riley Monkey+++

    is anyone else using IPTV? Cable and dish are going away as TV delivery service methods. DirectV is offering DirectV Now and other providers are following suit. I recently got rid of my $114 a month DirectV dish service and replaced it with Eternal TV for $8 a month for three concurrent connections. They have over 2,600 channels available if you count foreign and the porn channels and all the premium sports and movie channels. The picture quality is full 1080 and the stream seldom buffers. I have mine running on an Amazon Fire Stick which is on sale now for $29.95. Setup instructions are on YouTube and easy to follow. You sign up for the service at Eternal Hosting | Just another WordPress site and they provide a login and password. I do not know about the legality of what they do. There are several IPTV providers to choose from. I have been using this provider for a month so if it gets shut down tomorrow I've recouped the cost of my investment. With EternalTv and Netflix my entertainment bill is now $20 a month compared to the $130 it use to be with way more selections of watch. The $1,300 annual savings will buy me a nice new gun.
     
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  2. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    I looked for reviews on this company and found a lot of bad ones. Like at:
    Eternal Hosting is rated "Great" with 7.2 / 10 on Trustpilot

    They seem to not be able to maintain consistent service, and have lousy customer service.

    Worse yet (by far) I went to their home page and found absolutely nothing informative beyond the three price levels of service, and the fact that their service area is classified.

    Oh, yes: And you can't open an account with them until AFTER you buy something.

    So I can't even tell if their service area includes Florida. I've decided not to cancel my overly-expensive Dish subscription.

    I'm not about to buy their services before I know what I'm buying, how it works, and whether or not it's available in my area.

    Their website really sucks, BTW.

    (Oops! Never mind: They are "Out of Stock" on every service they offer.)
     
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  3. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    :cautious: :cautious:

    there are reports this outfit might be based in Lagos Nigeria.

    [dunno] if it is even legal .. so cannot comment further ..

    using wordpress aint a gud idea
     
  4. ochit

    ochit Monkey+

    BUT THEY HAVE PORN :D
     
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  5. T. Riley

    T. Riley Monkey+++

    I have had nothing but perfect streaming and have had no needed to contact customer service. As far as where their home office is I have no idea. They do seem to cater to the US and UK. It is a little difficult to get a subscription. They open them up as they add servers. The best time it check is early morning. Seems to me if they were crooks they would just go ahead and take the money and tell you when it would be available. They have 45 regional channels including Daytona Beach and Miami Beach. I still don't know much about it but for $8, so far, so good.
     
  6. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    Repacks are under way for many TV stations including the one I'm going back to work for:)D) in preparation for ATSC 3.0. In less than two years the new TV you'll need, or your cell phone, or tablet, will be able to pick up off air television without all of the antenna and cable mess. It will do it with digital signals much like cell phones work now so picking up the signal will be easy. They are doing this to target advertising to specific areas, and to run multiple ads at the same time to generate more $$$, which is all TV is out there for anyway. Cable and satellite will dry up and die as folks convert over to the ATSC 3.0 devices. And for the tin foil hat crowd, it allows the station to instantly gather data on what is being watched, and by whom.

    ATSC 3.0 - Wikipedia
     
  7. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    cable is going away ? [LMAO][LMAO][LMAO]:lol:[fnny][fnny][fnny][fnny]

    Cable has all the wiring. They will adapt you have not thought this thru if you think cable will disappear.
     
  8. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Cable companies will just provide the Internet you need to get access.

    All I know is we are paying way too much for cable, I told my wife we can get Internet and wait a month or 2 to get cable but she had to have it and we barely watch it. I don't have time. So she pays for it.
     
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  9. T. Riley

    T. Riley Monkey+++

    Cable and satellite TV providers will go the way of the home telephone in five years, IMO. It will be all streaming. Directv Now cost around $35 a month for 60 channels now. When current providers start pushing you away from their triditional products, you know they are history.
     
  10. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    Having worked for a cable company (number 2 in the US) and seen it from the inside, @Ganado Is correct. While cable television is on the way out, hard wired Internet isn't going anywhere for a while. There is simply not enough bandwidth available for all the Internet traffic to be over the air (4G, etc).

    The cable tv providers know this, which is why they are upgrading all of their systems to support faster Internet. Standards like DOCSIS 3.0 (and beyond) are exclusively for data transmission and "better/higher quality video" is a lucky side effect of those technologies.

    My wife and I "cut the cord" the day I left that company almost 4.5 years ago...but we actually did nothing of the sort. We simply cancelled cable. We still need hard wired Internet, which is still provided by that "cable company" and will be for the foreseeable future because I'm not a fan of AT&T who just expanded into our area.

    Don't kid yourself, cable companies will be around for a long time, if for no other reason to provide internet for all the "cord cutters". Depending on how much you stream and in what quality, regardless of the source, you could pay several times your old cable bill just in bandwidth charges from a cellular service, and still pay for Netflix/Amazon Prime/Hulu/Sling TV. Terrestrial cable for Internet, as expensive as it is, is still your best deal by far for online access...and that's coming from the cable company.
     
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  11. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    Now, a separate post to address Eternal TV. In short it is piracy. We can dress it up any way we'd like but it is an unauthorized "restreaming" service and as such is subject to takedown, cease and desist and DCMA orders.

    Programming costs money. If it is a restream of an Over The Air program, it's a little more gray (although it's still unlicensed) since it's a matter of having the appropriate hardware versus a legitimate subscription to the original service/source.

    Retransmitting without permission, especially something from an otherwise subscription service, is theft and watching it is receipt of stolen goods.

    Take Game of Thrones for example...the last 6 episodes of the series are reported to cost $15,000,000 each...thats 90 MILLION dollars. While that may be stupid money, it is a "fact" and a hard cost for the studio, and while HBO is generally fairly expensive to subscribe to, they have sales that drop it to $5 a month for 6 months if you look around, with no contract required (Hulu). If nobody paid for it, it wouldn't be there to watch in the first place and I assure you (because I actually know for a fact) that Eternal TV has streams for movies, tv shows, OTA series and Cable (subscription) series that they aren't licensing or paying for. Whether HBO, AMC, BBC or the others are right or wrong, the fact remains that if they don't get paid for their product, the product will go away.

    If you want broadcast TV, consider SlingTV. A little but more, but it is legit and pays the licensing fees to the content owner, is FAR higher quality, has technical and customer support and supports the programming you watch. They also have deals from time to time to get bigger "cable" channels for a discount and you can binge all the good stuff for cheap and then cancel when the deal goes away and subscribe again when the deal comes back around.
     
  12. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    and where do you think you are going to stream from. Air? You still have to have internet. TV programing is going to streaming, subject to data limits. People go over on their data all the time. Direct TV has to have internet to stream TV. When you get your 1st data average bill let me know [LMAO]

    I can agree that cable as we currently know it will disappear and you will pay more for tv ad hoc than you do now

    Look at when FCC broke up Ma Bell, what do you pay for your cell phone now? is it cheaper or more than telephone pre Ma Bell break up?

    And before we play the 'ya butt' game.... phone services and deman have change significantly, so will how we use TV.

    My point stands, cable companies will be around, they will adapt, and you will need their service, for TV (maybe) for internet definitely.
     
  13. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Double check that, it's satellite here, and even so the downlink won't support streaming. Might be an option I don't have, but looking at the bill, there's no way to get anything faster today. Tomorrow, well, might be different somehow, but so far the never ending ads to add channels does not mention speed.

    I do NOT know if DirecTV can be delivered by cable, but can't here.
     
  14. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Cable will go the way of the Doodo Bird, only in the sense that the Medium will change from Copper to Fiber... SatTv will never die as long as there are Rural Communities, and isolated Users that want the service... It costs way to much to string Fiber out that far, for the Rural folks... SatTv fills that Nitch Market.. Once Fiber comes into an area SatTv dries up....I am the Classic Example of this... I have DirecTv via SAT, AND DirecTv via 4G Cellular, on an Unlimited AT&T Plan for my two iPads, and iPhone... AT&T doesn't charge me for the Bandwidth on the 4G Network, but unfortunately Their 4G Network has a MAJOR Bottleneck in the Microwave Feed for the CellSite... and they can't stream Tv for more than one or two Users on this CellSite, before they Use up All the allowed 'streaming Bandwidth, via QOS Limits that give Telco Priority over Streaming Data... There is NO OTA There as the nearest OTA Station is 60 miles, and two Mountain Ranges away... My Internet comes in on a Dedicated 5Ghz Link from 20 Yards from the CellSite, on Hoonah Mountain... We get a 30 Mbs Feed on that, of which I get 5Mbs and the Cannery put in a NEW second SAT DataLink that is 10Mbs down and 2Mbs Up... Our Phones are SAT Based VoIP and are a 5Mbs link... the 2 Second latency on the Phonically is interesting to deal with...
     
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  15. Tempstar

    Tempstar Monkey+++

    In 1994 I had DSL and said telephone would never go away because of internet. Now there is a movement by Telco's to stop supporting the same copper my DSL was on. 5G and ATSC 3.0 will replace almost all cable and streaming in a few years. The money people within the television industry have found that millenials prefer to receive their news over portable devices. Samsung and Sinclair Broadcast Group have been spending tons developing this new technology.
    Sorry, I'll get the last [LMAO][LMAO][LMAO][ROFL][fnny]
    on this one.
     
  16. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    True, at least partially. Telco has replaced all the wires outside with fiber optic in this area. The downside is that if the power goes out, so does the landline. The optic to inhouse wire takes a modem, ya sees, and that eats about 1-1/2 kwh per week.
     
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