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Jade II: Orwellian Artificial Inteligence Network

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by GhostX, Oct 4, 2016.

  1. GhostX

    GhostX Monkey

    This is something that keeps me from sleeping some times. It's part of the reason I want to go off grid and make a break from technology. I feel that humanity is on the verge of the worst form of slavery that has ever existed on this planet.

    This video is 2 hours long but if you want to just listen to it while your doing some chores or something, I think you will hear some things that will grip you as they have me.

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  2. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey++

    I only got time to listen to a portion. I will listen more later. However, a few things jump out at me... First, even though she is supposedly a System Engineer she doesn't seem to get that what she is talking about isn't really an AI system, at least given what I have heard so far. Furthermore, she said a 'quantum computing technology'... Now, I know there is research being done on this but I do not think it is anywhere close enough to test in this regard especially in this manner because if so then that means quantum computing is here and in the now and I honestly don't think it is. Maybe I am wrong but don't think so. It is a giant leap and totally different from how we are computing now. Hell, we don't even have parallel processing down yet as very few programs written in this regard. Anyway, I will listen more later and retract or eat crow if necessary. I would love to believe that Quantum computing is here but...
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  3. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Careful, I have seen the next gen of super computing and have seen what it is able to do with today's capabilities as well as the next level of capabilities just over the horizon! I cannot say exactly what I saw due to security clause's I was made to sign, but I can tell you it is out of this world, next level shitz that would make your head spin!!! Lets just say that the current tech we are all used to will be so 1970's when this comes on line! Think of a new type of circuit that doesn't need or require a physical circuit path way, and this would be just the tip of the ice burg, Worse, It actually works!!!
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  4. GhostX

    GhostX Monkey

    Yeah, I feel like I can't get off grid fast enough. I haven't connected my laptop to the internet since Windows 10 stopped being free. I want to try to duck the noose when ever that system does come online. I realize that even the text I'm writing here will likely be archived and I'm going to be placed on some kind of list but if I can completely break away from it all before I get labeled as some kind of threat, I might have a chance. The future for the freedom of humanity might rest with people like us.

    The applications for a program like this scare the crap out of me...
  5. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey++

    I understand as I've sign many of those forms myself so know exactly what you are talking about and the repercussions. And, I assume this "...of circuit that doesn't need or require a physical circuit path way" is using optics (light) which will be a huge step and one that I know they have already proven in a tabletop version at MIT. It eliminates one of the greatest problems, namely heat. But, if indeed they are using quantum gates via the quantum-mechanical phenomena then - well - I'm stunned, speechless. But, really a fully operational quantum computer? If so then it is a giant leap of magnitude proportion...actually world changing. I have done a bit of reading on Quantum Computing and it's completely different from computing of today that's not to say that they do not have some sort of working model tucked away in some DARPA lab. I did find this which I believe to be probably closer to the truth: "As of 2016, the development of actual quantum computers is still in its infancy, but experiments have been carried out in which quantum computational operations were executed on a very small number of quantum bits..." BTW those bits are in no way the same type of binary bits we know in current computing... Anyway, I will listen to the rest of the video with an open mind and the fact if whether they are using a quantum computer or an abacus really doesn't make a difference concerning the JADE program/project and what they are trying to do. At least, I don't think it does...listening now.
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  6. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey++

    I am now 30 minutes into this thing and find it fascinating! I have glean a few things of note. First, I do know some of the not-for-profit engineering companies they talk about like Mitre. I've worked with them in the past and they would be exactly the sort of fellows to lead and develop a project like this. Basically, they're civilians that work specifically for the US government and yeah, they do a lot of work for the Intelligence community, especially Mitre. Also, given the verbiage and wording of the papers she is reading off of certainly seems to give validity to her accusations. I can understand why a quantum computer or some other type of super-computer would be necessary given the scope of the program as the amount of data would be massive, beyond explanation. Now, she constant references that the data is coming from the 'grid' but as yet hasn't explain exactly what the grid is so we have to assume it is everything: HUMINT, SIGINT, IMINT, to include even the internet and whatever else you can think of...All Source and Open Source intell. I think why she is stating the that computer is true AI and self-aware is because it can change its own programming to handle the problem set once given the parameters...not sure that constitutes intelligence but to each their own. So far, in all honesty, this program sounds like SkyNet in the Terminator series - real pie-in-the-sky stuff. Whether they have taken some project papers and misinterpreted them or are purposely using project papers to mislead or if this indeed is for real - well - we don't know. It may be nothing more than a White Paper on the use of a quantum computer to get inside of the decision cycle of the opposition whoever and whatever that opposition might be. Still listening...
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  7. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey++

    Okay, I listened to an hour of it. Very interesting and so much so that I am now looking at Level9 News. Frankly, I don't think I have a problem in believing the concept or its implementation. While most think in terms of contemporary means of control (guns, media, police/agents, data gathering, etc) we never considered how many ways new, cutting edge technology can be used and this is truly a logical yet innovative approach. What is scary is that it can be funded and developed by the people it means to control under the guise of defense. Some of what was said obviously cannot be proven, is pure speculation, however given the facts that are known the assumptions can be given a good weight of truth, a damn good guess.

    I think the bottom line to this is that government is indeed using computer based modeling and intelligence gathering to use against any 'enemy of the state' to include its own populous. We cannot be so naïve as to think that these tools developed and readily available will not be used on us, the citizens of the US. They most definitely will be. And, while the concept to track each and every individual may seem preposterous given the correct tools and technology, such as quantum based computing, it would indeed be possible and very attainable...

    @GhostX Very interesting and something I will watch for and make note of in the future. Thank you. As for you dropping off the grid... Well, personally, I don't think it is possible anymore or, at the very least, extremely difficult.
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  8. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Therein lays the rub. So much information derived from guesses that cannot be proven, that then grow into conspiracy theories. That said, there's little doubt that computing gains are going to be made, whether in binary processing or some other means that approximates infinite connectivity. And be sure that the technology, whatever form it takes will be used to benefit mankind as well as misused for whatever the controllers might want to control.

    Information flow is already so far out of control that it is almost impossible to find a fact worth knowing.
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  9. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    All I can say it yes!!! I have seen a prototype Server network set up with this and it went online locally for test only at the time! I can also confirm it doesn't use fiber optics internally, only for networking!!! This stuff is really frightening in what I saw it able to do, and what it could be programmed to do!
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