John Noveske killed

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  1. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    John-Noveske-958x638.

    He rolled his Land Cruiser in Grants Pass Friday night and was ejected. He built some of the very finest AR-based weapons systems for law enforcement and military use. He was only 36.
    RIP John
    John-Noveske-958x638.
     
  2. NWPilgrim

    NWPilgrim Monkey++

    Big loss to the AR15 community and firearms industry. His family must be devastated to lose a relatively young man in his prime. RIP.

    He was ejected from vehicle so a reminder to us all to wear those belts.
     
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  3. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    OH man.. the hits just keep comin' . Watch the conspiracy theories on this one.

    John, send us some light from up above. We could certainly use it right about now. Oh and some scopes, rails, lowers, uppers, barrels.. the whole shebang! like frogs from the sky, only in the shape of an AR :)
    ..and make some funny faces behind Feinstein when she's on camera. :D
     
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  4. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Like I said, the purge has begun "A few high profile targets"
    Thoughts on gun grabs

    http://libertyandsuch.com/manager-of-fpsrussia-found-murdered/

    Keith Ratliff, the manager of FPS Russia, the 3rd most popular youtube channel was found dead yesterday, tied up to a chair and shot in the back of the head.
    Body Found in Carnesville Identified | 92.1 WLHR
    Keith Ratliff killed in Stanton, Ky. - Topix
    The radio and media at large isn’t mentioning the exact details, however this is a very important thing. FPS Russia is a driving force in the pro-gun movement concerning youth. The videos published are very pro-gun, and reach literally millions of impressionable youth showing them that firearms just aren’t for people in movies or video games.
    From the details, it was not a robbery turned murder. His guns were still left in the house. So, why was he murdered mob style?
    This represents a second well known player in the firearms industry to be killed in the past week. Only a few days ago, John Novseke was killed in a somewhat mysterious car crash.
    Interestingly enough, one of FPSRussia’s recent videos featured him tied to a chair, held hostage and about to be shot.
     
  5. scrapman21009

    scrapman21009 Chupacabra Hunter

    looks like someone on the other side has read Unintended Consequences and is trying to flip it around with some preemptive removals[tinfoil101]
     
  6. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    hmmm... 2 high profile gun enthusiasts, pro-gun, pro 2a and vocal about it.. both dead days apart mysteriously. I'm sorry, but the math on this one says "OOOGA?, WHAT THE SHEET?"
     
  7. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Did he take his rifle too? I think he just took up the overwatch position as the eye in the sky....RIP.
    John-Noveske-958x638.
     
  8. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Tactical beard . . . .
     
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  9. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    More on Keith Ratliff......

    KY Man Found Shot Dead In GA | LEX18.com | Lexington, Kentucky

    Deputies in Georgia are trying to figure out what happened to a Kentucky man found shot dead Thursday night. Investigators aren't positive it's murder, but Keith Ratliff's family in Frankfort says they're sure it is.
    Two year-old Jayden Ratliff holds a picture of his dad. It's from Christmas Eve, and it's one of the last photos taken.
    "It was really hard. To know that he's going to go the rest of his life without his dad," Amanda Ratliff says.
    Friday morning, she got the call: her husband, 32 year-old Keith Ratliff was found dead. Shot, she says, in his office, hundreds of miles away in Carnesville, Georgia. He moved there from Frankfort about a year ago.
    "You know, it just doesn't really add up," Amanda says.
    "It seems that the way the whole thing unfolded, there was no forced entry and things like that," says Kelly Ratliff, Keith's brother.
    What happened leaves Kelly asking two big questions:
    "Who and why? For a person to take somebody else's life, I mean why?"
    Investigators told a Georgia newspaper Ratliff was shot once in the head, and had been dead for some time when he was found.
    Kelly Ratliff says his brother always carried a gun to protect himself:
    "For him not to pull out that gun and try to defend himself, he had to feel comfortable around somebody. Either that or he was ambushed."
    Keith's family says they won't stop pressuring investigators to figure out what happened.
    "We all want to know and we all want justice to be done," Amanda says. "He had way to much to look forward to in his life."
    LEX 18 called investigators in Georgia handling the case and haven't heard back. At this point, Franklin County deputies are not involved in the investigation.
    Ratliff's family here in Kentucky are preparing for a Friday funeral.
     
  10. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Moderator Moderator Site Supporter++

    I saw the news on Ratliff yesterday. One event you could say an accident but then an execution, that definitely raised the flag. Something seems real off on these deaths. It does make one question if there was an agenda involved in these deaths.
     
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  11. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Like I said above.. I don't like the statistical math on this one.
     
  12. Georgia_Boy

    Georgia_Boy Monkey+++

    RIP for both men. Both deaths appear to stink to high heaven. Oops, gotta change my tinfoil hats.
    GB
     
  13. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Prominent rifle manufacturer killed in mysterious car crash days after posting psych drug link to school shooters

    Prominent rifle manufacturer killed in mysterious car crash days after posting psych drug link to school shooters

    (NaturalNews) What you are about to read is astonishing. I'm not even sure what's the right conclusion to draw from it. But here's what we know so far:

    John Noveske is one of the most celebrated battle rifle manufacturers in America. His rifles, found at www.NoveskeRifleworks.com are widely recognized as some of the finest pieces of American-made hardware ever created. (I own one of his rifles, and it's a masterpiece of a machine that just keeps on running.) Sadly, John Noveske was killed in a mysterious car crash just a few days ago, on January 4, 2013.

    According to the Outdoor Wire, his car "traveled across the oncoming lane onto the dirt highway shoulder until it struck two large boulders. The vehicle rolled and Mr. Noveske was ejected."

    But barely a week before this incident, John Noveske posted a lengthy, detailed post on Facebook that listed all the school shootings tied to psychiatric drugs. At the end of the post, he asked, "What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on?"

    That was the last post he ever made. (Full text below.)

    Mysterious death during gun control debate raises questions

    John Noveske wasn't the first prominent gun rights supporter to be killed in the last few days. Keith Ratliff, the creator of a super-popular YouTube channel featuring videos of exotic weapons, was also recently found dead.

    The Daily Mail reports that Ratliff was "discovered on a rural road in Carnesville, Georgia. Ratliff had a single gunshot wound the head and police are treating his death as a homicide."

    Someone murdered Ratliff, in other words, and it had to be someone with the ability to get close enough to Ratliff to take him out without warning.

    Beyond these two shootings, the widely-discredited CNN journalist Piers Morgan, wanted for questioning in Britain's Daily Mirror phone hacking scandal, invited guests onto his show who threatened Alex Jones' children and laughed about the idea of Piers Morgan shooting Alex Jones with an AR-15.

    That astonishing video interview is available at:
    www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-morgan-guest-says-shoot-alex-jon...


    Steve Quayle, creator of SteveQuayle.com, says "the red list is on!" This refers to the so-called "red list" -- a secret kill list of Americans authorized by Obama and designed to be invoked immediately before an attempted radical leftist takeover of the nation. In support of this theory, Obama himself actually signed into law the NDAA which authorizes secret assassinations of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

    Instead of the red list being "conspiracy theory," it appears to be a key component of Obama's domestic policy.

    Beyond coincidence: Pieces of the puzzle rapidly coming together

    Sure, a car crash involving John Noveske could be a coincidence. It could also be a coincidence that no video footage has been released from Sandy Hook showing Adam Lanza carrying any rifle whatsoever.

    It might also be a coincidence that Dianne Feinstein just happened to have her detailed gun confiscation bill ready to release immediately following the Sandy Hook shooting.

    It might also be a total coincidence that according to Google.com, the United Way Sandy Hook donation support page was created on December 11, 2012 -- a full three days before the shooting took place.

    It could also be a total coincidence that NBC News reported Adam Lanza's AR-15 rifle was left in his car and was never used in the shooting at all.

    I suppose it could be a coincidence that Bank of America slammed home an economic embargo against an online gun parts retailer in the days following the Sandy Hook shooting.

    And it could be coincidence that Facebook suspended or shut down the accounts of hundreds of prominent people who advocated the Second Amendment, including our account here at Natural News. (I follow lots of gun culture pages on FB and I didn't see ANY of them taken down.)

    And finally, it could be a total coincidence that police radio recordings seem to indicate there were multiple shooters involved in Sandy Hook.

    But what are the odds of ALL of these coincidences existing simultaneously? Those odds are virtually zero.

    Something's fishy with all this. It's becoming increasingly apparent that an order has come down from the very top to destroy, silence, threaten or execute true American patriots. Steve Quayle has long predicted this would be the very first step before foreign troops are unleashed on American soil to take over the country and deliver it, just as Obama has always planned, into the hands of the globalist crime syndicate.

    It all sounds outrageous, I admit, and I'm not even sure what to believe myself. But it's becoming more difficult by the day to deny actual events happening right before our eyes. Believe what you will, but don't be surprised if people like Steve Quayle and Alex Jones were right all along. If we see any more mysterious deaths of prominent gun advocates, it going to raise huge red flags across the patriot community.

    Read John Noveske's last Facebook post

    This is the last post John Noveske made on his Facebook page before he was killed:

    Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

    Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

    Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

    Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

    Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

    Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

    Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

    Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

    A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

    Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

    A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

    Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

    TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

    Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

    James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

    Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

    Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

    Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

    Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

    Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

    Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

    Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

    Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

    Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

    Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

    Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")

    Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
    (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)


    Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

    Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

    Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

    Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

    A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

    Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

    Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

    Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

    Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
    Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.


    Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
    New York high school.


    Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....

    What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

    What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

    What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

    What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
    Roberts is the only one that I haven't heard about being on drugs of some kind.


    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_John_Noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html#ixzz2HZo6pQUA
     
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  14. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    :eek:
    Ive always been against drugging our children. I wonder what they did when I was a youngster in place of drugs.o_O
     
  15. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    I got my @ss busted...a lot--and I was innocent every time.

    ....and a lot of those drugs' side effects state: "if you have thoughts of suicide or hurting others, please stop using this drug." WTF?? How do you know if that's the new normal to you? Can you recognize insanity while on these drugs?
     
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  16. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Every drug ad on TV goes thru the "possible thoughts of suicide" side effects rave. Now, with all that head work, how can you not honestly answer the doctor's question, "Have you ever thought about doing yourself in?" without saying yes? I'm going to lie, I can tell you that right now. I can also say honestly here and now, that were it not for those infernal ads, it wouldn't cross my mind.
     
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  17. CATO

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  18. oldawg

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  19. Silversnake

    Silversnake Silverback

    I use this website RxList - The Internet Drug Index for prescription drugs, medications and pill identifier a lot at work. Basically it is all the current package inserts for all the meds in the United States Pharmacopiea (USP).

    The following is cut and pasted from the Zoloft warnings page. Note aggressive hostility as a side effect among other.
    Clinical Worsening and Suicide Risk

    Patients with major depressive disorder (MDD), both adult and pediatric, may experience worsening of their depression and/or the emergence of suicidal ideation and behavior (suicidality) or unusual changes in behavior, whether or not they are taking antidepressant medications, and this risk may persist until significant remission occurs. Suicide is a known risk of depression and certain other psychiatric disorders, and these disorders themselves are the strongest predictors of suicide. There has been a long-standing concern, however, that antidepressants may have a role in inducing worsening of depression and the emergence of suicidality in certain patients during the early phases of treatment. Pooled analyses of short-term placebo-controlled trials of antidepressant drugs (SSRIs and others) showed that these drugs increase the risk of suicidal thinking and behavior (suicidality) in children, adolescents, and young adults (ages 18-24) with major depressive disorder (MDD) and other psychiatric disorders. Short-term studies did not show an increase in the risk of suicidality with antidepressants compared to placebo in adults beyond age 24; there was a reduction with antidepressants compared to placebo in adults aged 65 and older.
    The pooled analyses of placebo-controlled trials in children and adolescents with MDD, obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD), or other psychiatric disorders included a total of 24 short-term trials of 9 antidepressant drugs in over 4400 patients. The pooled analyses of placebo-controlled trials in adults with MDD or other psychiatric disorders included a total of 295 short-term trials (median duration of 2 months) of 11 antidepressant drugs in over 77,000 patients. There was considerable variation in risk of suicidality among drugs, but a tendency toward an increase in the younger patients for almost all drugs studied. There were differences in absolute risk of suicidality across the different indications, with the highest incidence in MDD. The risk differences (drug vs. placebo), however, were relatively stable within age strata and across indications. These risk differences (drug-placebo difference in the number of cases of suicidality per 1000 patients treated) are provided in Table 1.
    Table 1

    Age Range Drug-Placebo Difference in Number of Cases of Suicidality per 1000 Patients Treated
    Increases Compared to Placebo
    < 18 14 additional cases
    18-24 5 additional cases
    Decreases Compared to Placebo
    25-64 1 fewer case
    ≥ 65 6 fewer cases

    No suicides occurred in any of the pediatric trials. There were suicides in the adult trials, but the number was not sufficient to reach any conclusion about drug effect on suicide.
    It is unknown whether the suicidality risk extends to longer-term use, i.e., beyond several months. However, there is substantial evidence from placebo-controlled maintenance trials in adults with depression that the use of antidepressants can delay the recurrence of depression.
    All patients being treated with antidepressants for any indication should be monitored appropriately and observed closely for clinical worsening, suicidality, and unusual changes in behavior, especially during the initial few months of a course of drug therapy, or at times of dose changes, either increases or decreases.
    The following symptoms, anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility aggressiveness, impulsivity, akathisia (psychomotor restlessness), hypomania, and mania, have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric. Although a causal link between the emergence of such symptoms and either the worsening of depression and/or the emergence of suicidal impulses has not been established, there is concern that such symptoms may represent precursors to emerging suicidality.
    Consideration should be given to changing the therapeutic regimen, including possibly discontinuing the medication, in patients whose depression is persistently worse, or who are experiencing emergent suicidality or symptoms that might be precursors to worsening depression or suicidality, especially if these symptoms are severe, abrupt in onset, or were not part of the patient's presenting symptoms.
    If the decision has been made to discontinue treatment, medication should be tapered, as rapidly as is feasible, but with recognition that abrupt discontinuation can be associated with certain symptoms (see PRECAUTIONS and DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION - Discontinuation of Treatment with ZOLOFT, for a description of the risks of discontinuation of ZOLOFT).
    Families and caregivers of patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder or other indications, both psychiatric and nonpsychiatric, should be alerted about the need to monitor patients for the emergence of agitation, irritability, unusual changes in behavior, and the other symptoms described above, as well as the emergence of suicidality, and to report such symptoms immediately to health care providers. Such monitoring should include daily observation by families and caregivers. Prescriptions for ZOLOFT should be written for the smallest quantity of tablets consistent with good patient management, in order to reduce the risk of overdose.
    Screening Patients for Bipolar Disorder

    A major depressive episode may be the initial presentation of bipolar disorder. It is generally believed (though not established in controlled trials) that treating such an episode with an antidepressant alone may increase the likelihood of precipitation of a mixed/manic episode in patients at risk for bipolar disorder. Whether any of the symptoms described above represent such a conversion is unknown. However, prior to initiating treatment with an antidepressant, patients with depressive symptoms should be adequately screened to determine if they are at risk for bipolar disorder; such screening should include a detailed psychiatric history, including a family history of suicide, bipolar disorder, and depression. It should be noted that ZOLOFT is not approved for use in treating bipolar depression.
    Cases of serious sometimes fatal reactions have been reported in patients receiving ZOLOFT (sertraline hydrochloride), a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI), in combination with a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI). Symptoms of a drug interaction between an SSRI and an MAOI include: hyperthermia, rigidity, myoclonus, autonomic instability with possible rapid fluctuations of vital signs, mental status changes that include confusion, irritability, and extreme agitation progressing to delirium and coma. These reactions have also been reported in patients who have recently discontinued an SSRI and have been started on an MAOI. Some cases presented with features resembling neuroleptic malignant syndrome. Therefore, ZOLOFT should not be used in combination with an MAOI, or within 14 days of discontinuing treatment with an MAOI. Similarly, at least 14 days should be allowed after stopping ZOLOFT before starting an MAOI.
    The concomitant use of Zoloft with MAOIs intended to treat depression is contraindicated (see CONTRAINDICATIONS and WARNINGS - Potential for Interaction with Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors.)
    Serotonin Syndrome or Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome (NMS)-like Reactions

    The development of a potentially life-threatening serotonin syndrome or Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome (NMS)-like reactions have been reported with SNRIs and SSRIs alone, including Zoloft treatment, but particularly with concomitant use of serotonergic drugs (including triptans and fentanyl) with drugs which impair metabolism of serotonin (including MAOIs), or with antipsychotics or other dopamine antagonists. Serotonin syndrome symptoms may include mental status changes (e.g., agitation, hallucinations, coma), autonomic instability (e.g., tachycardia, labile blood pressure, hyperthermia), neuromuscular aberrations (e.g., hyperreflexia, incoordination) and/or gastrointestinal symptoms (e.g., nausea, vomiting, diarrhea). Serotonin syndrome, in its most severe form can resemble neuroleptic malignant syndrome, which includes hyperthermia, muscle rigidity, autonomic instability with possible rapid fluctuation of vital signs, and mental status changes. Patients should be monitored for the emergence of serotonin syndrome or NMS-like signs and symptoms.
    The concomitant use of Zoloft with MAOIs intended to treat depression is contraindicated.
    If concomitant treatment of Zoloft with a 5-hydroxytryptamine receptor agonist (triptan) is clinically warranted, careful observation of the patient is advised, particularly during treatment initiation and dose increases.
    The concomitant use of Zoloft with serotonin precursors (such as tryptophan) is not recommended.
    Treatment with Zoloft and any concomitant serotonergic or antidopaminergic agents, including antipsychotics, should be discontinued immediately if the above events occur and supportive symptomatic treatment should be initiated.
    Co-administration of Zoloft with other drugs which enhance the effects of serotonergic neurotransmission, such as tryptophan, fenfluramine, fentanyl, 5-HT agonists, or the herbal medicine St. John’s Wort (hypericum perforatum) should be undertaken with caution and avoided whenever possible due to the potential for pharmacodynamic interaction.
     
  20. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    The Guardian: Is Mental Health Care to Blame for School Shootings? Part One—Psychiatric Drugs &laquo; CCHR International

    The Guardian: Is Mental Health Care to Blame for School Shootings? Part One—Psychiatric Drugs

    The Guardian
    By Erin Lale

    School shooter Adam Lanza is reported to have been diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome, which is a form of Autism. Some reports say he was also diagnosed with a personality disorder. In this series, I examine what this means by asking experts and activists what we should blame for school shootings and what we should do about it. In Part 1, we examine the role of psychiatric drugs.
    Ann Blake-Tracy, author and Executive Director of International Coalition for Drug Awareness, says, “After spending 20 plus years working to wake up the world to the most extreme dangers of antidepressants this last shooting makes me angry at a society that continues to allow prescription medications on the market that have listed side effects of both homicidal & suicidal ideation in their warnings. Why is that acceptable when we have documented involvement of antidepressants in 67 cases of school shootings in our database of cases at www.ssristories.com. Although these drugs are most similar in action to PCP (Angel Dust) they continue to be widely prescribed and are the most commonly prescribed drugs for Aspergers which this shooter was diagnosed with.”
    There is a petition on the internet application Causes stating, “The reality is that many doctors are still uninformed of the dangers of benzodiazepine prescribing and its subsequent withdrawal syndrome. This means that they continue to prescribe them for longer than the two to four week period recommended by the FDA.” Unlike petitions that call for new laws, this one calls for the signers to personally inform their own doctors about this issue. This is a new direction in the psychiatric survivors’ movement, which has historically advised people with mental illnesses not to tell their doctors if they decide to quit drugs for fear they will be forcibly drugged against their will.
    Perhaps if doctors, researchers, and the public are informed about the effects these drugs have on the people who take them, medical professionals and the public will demand change in the prescribing of these drugs.
    Clint Moser, a Volunteer Lobbyist for “We The People”, provided this list of shooters on psychiatric drugs:
    • Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Colombine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
    • Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
    • Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
    • Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
    • Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
    • Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
    • Jarred Viktor, age 15, stabbed his grandmother 61 times after 5 days on Paxil.
    • Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
    • Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
    • A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
    • Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded.
    • A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
    • Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
    • TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
    • Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
    • James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a.22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
    • Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania.
    • Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California.
    • Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
    • Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
    • Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
    • Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
    • Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
    • Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
    • Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
    • Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
    • Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”).
    • Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)
    • Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
    • Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
    • Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
    • Woody Witczak, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
    • Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”.
    • Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
    • Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
    • Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
    • Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
    • Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.” Read the article here
     
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