Just Like Andrew, Floridians Not Prepared

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ghostrider, Aug 28, 2005.


  1. ghostrider

    ghostrider Resident Poltergeist Founding Member

    They didn't even have two days worth of food at home.
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  2. Bear

    Bear Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++ Founding Member Iron Monkey

    Pretty sad.... Floridians a storm weary and aren't making good decisions.... :rolleyes: those that died when Katrina hit Florida earlier are probably an example of not taking the storm seriously enough.... I tell you.... any storm .... especially a tropical strength storm near hurricane strength is not to be taken lightly.... I am hoping for the best for New Orleans, any area it makes landfall for that matter :( ... a direct hit will be very bad.....
     
  3. ghostrider

    ghostrider Resident Poltergeist Founding Member

    After three last year, " oh, it won't hit us", is not optomism, it's delusional. I can't imagine somebody not having two days worth of food and water at home.
     
  4. ghostrider

    ghostrider Resident Poltergeist Founding Member

    Hurricanes to Hit Fla. Since August 2004 By The Associated Press
    Sat Aug 27,12:19 AM ET


    Hurricanes hitting Florida in 2004-05 and their impact on the state.


    2004:

    Name: Charley

    Landfall: Aug. 13, Cayo Costa.

    Maximum wind: 150 mph (Category 4)

    Fatalities: 35

    Estimated insured losses (as of late 2004): $7.8 billion.

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    Name: Frances

    Landfall: Sept. 5, Sewall's Point.

    Wind speed: 105 mph (Category 2)

    Fatalities: 40

    Estimated insured losses: $4.6 billion.

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    Name: Ivan

    Landfall: Sept. 16, Gulf Shores, Ala.

    Wind speed: 130 mph (Category 3)

    Fatalities: 29

    Estimated insured losses: $4.1 billion.

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    Name: Jeanne

    Landfall: Sept. 26, Hutchinson Island.

    Wind speed: 121 mph (Category 3)

    Fatalities: 19

    Estimated insured losses: $4.1 billion.

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    2005:

    Name: Dennis

    Landfall: July 10, between Navarre Beach and Pensacola Beach.

    Wind speed: 120 mph (Category 3)

    Fatalities: 12

    Estimated insured losses: $1 billion to $2.5 billion (initial projection)

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    Name: Katrina

    Landfall: Aug. 25, between Hallandale Beach and North Miami Beach

    Wind speed: 80 mph (Category 1)

    Fatalities: 7

    Estimated insured losses: not available.

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    Sources: National Hurricane Center, State Emergency Operations Center, Florida Office of Insurance Regulation.
     
  5. Bear

    Bear Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++ Founding Member Iron Monkey

    Yup.... pretty scary huh ?..... Imagine a place like Florida... that has all those hits... and people are still not prepared..... What must the rest of the country be like?.... and if there is a larger disaster ... like say... the electrical grid goes down on a wide scale basis, pumps don't work, registers don't work etc.... that's gonna be pretty scary.... it would a wild time..... People will get pretty upset, angry and desparate pretty fast.... I don't understand sometimes, actually I do,....bug out or bug in.... either way... people have got to assess and prepare..... :rolleyes:
     
  6. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    While I am not near prepared as much as I would like, I could get by for a good while. I have a feeling that a bunch of folks couldn't go a day. Just reaffirms why security has to be a big part of preparing. Those that don't have, will be trying to take from those that do.
     
  7. magnus392

    magnus392 Field Marshall Mags Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    well I have nearly been killed by 2 floridains in TX driving around like they owned the roads....so nothing ingnorant from them suprises me. They are the next Kali.
     
  8. Bear

    Bear Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++ Founding Member Iron Monkey

    Yup.... pretty sad.... I have a friend who's a pretty smart guy when it comes to most things... he's got a family and kids.... but when it comes to preps... even basic ones like food and water.... his answer is "that if "it" happens, I have a gun and I'll take what I need to provide for my family".... tsk tsk.... I was pretty shocked at that.... tried to tell him as good as he thinks he is (and he's pretty good)... others will be thinking the same thing and protecting what they have... also told him he's no good to his wife and kids dead!.... still.... I don't think he's taken it to heart.... got his head in the sand and hoping for the best..... I don't talk about it with him anymore.....
    Yup.... security is a really big part of prepping.... maybe even from those you've called "friends"..... :rolleyes:
     
  9. Bear

    Bear Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++ Founding Member Iron Monkey

    Looks like Katrina's winds put it in the high category 4 hurricane status....
    May become a category 5 as it enters warmer waters... high 80's low 90's...
    New Orleans is under a mandatory evac ....

    This may be the bad one they were hoping would never come their way.... :cry:

    Time to bug out!!!!!!!! [camo]
     
  10. Halffast

    Halffast Wannabe Hack Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Did anyone see the movie on SciFi a few months ago called "Oil Storm"?
     
  11. TLynn

    TLynn Monkey+++ Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Bear, unfortunately too many people do not bug out in time.

    We can only pray that they make it through it.
     
  12. ghostrider

    ghostrider Resident Poltergeist Founding Member

    The problem is, for every two people that can bug out, there's one that can't, and one planning a hurricane party.
     
  13. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Yeah, as a matter of fact over the last month that already several things from that fake documentary have come true. I was telling my wife about it at the time, then this morning I reminded her, that in "Oil Storm" a big hurricane hit N.O. and wiped out a bridge to a big refinery, and did major damage there severing a pipe line too. Spooky.....................................................
     
  14. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    I don't think you can limit stupid people to a particular geographic region, although I might ammend that opinion about New Jersey...the problem is that people have become so damned reliant on big brother providing all their needs that survival isn't really a question until you get slapped in the face with it. Maybe it's 90% law of natural selection raising it's vengeful head.
     
  15. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Katrina is actually a high category 5 now. 175 mph winds. This is going to be a bad one.
     
  16. Bear

    Bear Monkey+++ Site Supporter+++ Founding Member Iron Monkey

    Yup this has great potential to be a bad one in so many ways.... Loss of life, property damage.... oh and watch the markets.... especially oil.... it will be "interesting" to watch the "ripple effects" of this..... "GOT PREPS ?"..... [camo]

    HERE'S A INTERESTING WARNING FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE....

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    Hope we don't have any friends or family in harm's way.... if so... prayers are being sent....
     
  17. Valkman

    Valkman Knifemaker Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Ghostrider, I've seen that attitude of "Oh it won't happen again" and couldn't believe it. My wife's Dad lives in Pensacola and had the roof ripped off his very nice house last year. We were visiting them (him and his wife) in their $1800/month apartment they get to live in for a year, and I could not believe the head-in-the-sand things they were saying. I for one could not live anywhere that got hit like they do.

    New Orleans is in deep trouble being 12' below sea level, plus there won't be anywhere to pump water to. If they get hit with 20' of water, well we can hope they don't.
     
  18. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I have never seen a hurricane with that big of a well formed eye. That thing is a monster. The only hurricanes that I ever have been through in New Orleans were a couple from Pat O'Brien's. They were pretty potent too.
     
  19. ghostrider

    ghostrider Resident Poltergeist Founding Member

  20. melbo

    melbo Hunter Gatherer Administrator Founding Member

    this is ghost's pic, It should update automatically
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