Just something interesting

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Alpha Dog, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    Found this while looking around the web thought some of you guy's might like to look it over. Just show what Big Brother can do and it is scary.


    The following guide will help you plan, prepare, and get ready in the event that martial law threatens you safety and well being. It is divided into two parts. The first part describes the framework for martial law and the second part the actions to take in preparing for the actual declaration of martial law.

    • Martial law is defined as: military rule or authority imposed on a civilian population when the civil authorities cannot maintain law and order, as in a time of war or during an emergency.
    • Hitler turned Germany into a Nazi dictatorship through executive orders.
    • Executive Order 10995: All communications media are to be seized by the Federal Government. Radio, TV, newspapers, CB, Ham, telephones, and the internet will be under federal control. Hence, the First Amendment will be suspended indefinitely.
    • Executive Order 10997: All electrical power, fuels, and all minerals well be seized by the federal government.
    • Executive Order 10998: All food resources, farms and farm equipment will be seized by the government. You will not be allowed to hoard food since this is regulated.
    • Executive Order 10999: All modes of transportation will go into government control. Any vehicle can be seized.
    • Executive Order 11000: All civilians can be used for work under federal supervision.
    • Executive Order 11490: Establishes presidential control over all US citizens, businesses, and churches in time of "emergency."
    • Executive Order 12919: Directs various Cabinet officials to be constantly ready to take over virtually all aspects of the US economy during a State of National Emergency at the direction of the president.
    • Executive Order 13010: Directs FEMA to take control over all government agencies in time of emergency. FEMA is under control of executive branch of the government.
    • Executive Order 12656: "ASSIGNMENT OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS RESPONSIBILITIES", "A national emergency is any occurrence, including natural disaster, military attack, technological emergency, or other emergency that seriously degrades or seriously threatens the national security of the United States. Policy for national security emergency preparedness shall be established by the President." This order includes federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, wage and price controls, prohibits you from moving assets in or out of the United States, creates a draft, controls all travel in and out of the United States, and much more.
    • Martial law can be declared due to natural disasters, Y2k Crisis, Stock Market crash, no electricity, riots, biological attack, .... anything leading to the breakdown of law and order.
    • Prepare before any declaration of martial law by becoming self reliant. You may become subject to a bureaucratic system and be prepared to stay one step ahead of it which is easy to do if you are prepared and in a position to be self reliant. You may also face mob rule, chaos, panic, or a complete breakdown in law and order. Surival situations may be easier to handle in rural areas than urban.
    • Avoid areas of marital law. Can be imposed due to natural disasters or man caused events. Important to have a retreat or place in a rural area away from populated areas.
    • Create alliances with like minded neighbors or community members that share your views. Team work and numbers may help your situation.
    • Become transparent in the sense that you do not draw attention to yourself or your family. For instance, do not tell people that you are storing food just store food. Be prepared to render assistance to neighbors if need be. You never know when you will need them.
    • Remain calm! Do not panic.
    • Avoid areas of civil unrest if possible. If caught in civil unrest take appropriate action.
    • Get informed and stay informed. Understand martial law can be a temporary crisis or an extended one. In extreme cases the shape of a whole nation can change.
    • Declaration of martial law means your rights are suspended and it is government by decree. Your constitutional rights may no longer apply. This could mean a state of National Emergency.
    • People can be arrested and imprisoned indefinitely without charges.
    • Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly can be suspended, and censorship of the media imposed.
    • Gun ownership will also come under severe attack during marital law. We could see house to house searches by the military or National Guard looking for guns and seizing any they find along with stored food.
    • Take a stand on issues and make a choice that fits your beliefs and the situation. Do you believe as Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death?" Realize you may have some hard choices to make. Understand you may have to sacrifice your principles on trivial matters or take a hard stand. Always remember that you may have to come back and fight another day.
  2. GrandpaDave

    GrandpaDave Monkey++

    Not so scary... My wife already does most of those things to me and the kids...Our version of civil disobedience is to make a quick exit when she says, "Who's turn is it to do the dishes tonight?"
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  3. goinpostal

    goinpostal Monkey+++

    You better be carefull,or She'll put cold rationing in place.
  4. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    GrandpaDave will be on stale crackers and warm muddy water for a week or two.
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  5. limpingbear

    limpingbear future cancer survivor....

    so the president(s) gave themselves the authority to declare martial law. From what ive read, there is no clause in the constitution itself for martial law. Do i have that right or am i missing something?

    Need to hit that reset button.....
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  6. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    I have read as well and come to the same opinion as you, and with the way things are going you can see the set up for the order coming.
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  7. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    I have been trying to tell everyone this for almost 3 years now. It is high time that people start paying attention. Almost all the framework is already in place. All it takes is to look at the arrogance in his face. I really think he is going to try and pull this off before elections this year. All he needs is a couple of riots , for instance like the OWS bunch's in several areas all at once. Bingo, he would be there
  8. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    I certainly hope not. It will be the single biggest mistake he ever makes in his lifetime by far. Martial law on a nationwide scale is unenforceable. Only a totally fool would think it possible. Certain cities or a small region maybe for a short period of time if it could truly be justified. I doubt it could even be enforced on a large state such as California, Texas, or Alaska. Others could prove unsustainable as well. The US Army failed with a bunch of Seminole Indians in Florida twice. Unfortunately times and technology has changed a great deal since the 1830s. I might be forced to sail to Texas with all I can load in my sailboat. Ya just never know.
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  9. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    If the kenyan and his masters truly WANT a multi-front civil war they cannot hope to win - "Bring it on!"
    Some 80 million angry gun owners will be the core of the effort against them - be a bunch of other supremely PO'd folks too.
    We KNOW where the pols live and work. Bunkers can be buried.

    For any Alphabets reading this, it ain't a threat by any means - it is a simple statement of fact - please tell your superiors what an utterly brain-dead idea nationwide martial law would be. Suicide is NOT a healthy lifestyle.

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  10. Waz

    Waz Monkey+

    Thing is, he is doing it, he is doing things without consent, he is bankrupting your country, according to many Americans he should be impeached, yet there he is, with that smirk he has, which make me want to puke, no-one in the Dems has the courage to say no more.
    Election yr, wonder what he has planned in case his chances of winning are low.
    Nothing this guy does surprises me, just glad he is there and not here in Oz.
    I tend to think Martial Law will come into effect when your fellow Americans find out what he is up to, silence the masses by incarceration with out rights, sounds like Martial Law is already in practice
  11. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    If your a man and get a divorce all your rights are stripped by the court system and you live under marshall law.

    When the Federal Gooberment looses its ability to borrow money they will first seize all retirement savings from private citizens., and then take over the banking system.
    If that happens the country will have another civil war.

    The difference between the current USA and Hitlers Germanyis that the USA has lost its Heart and theres is no longer any Nationalism. Hitler took on a bankrupt Germany and very quickley turned it into a super power Nationalist country, kind of ashime he used his power to try to take over the world.
  12. limpingbear

    limpingbear future cancer survivor....

    The thing of it is, the government has already taken over the banking system. They have the FED, they have all the CEO's of all the bailed out banks in thier pocket. The .gov already owns the banks. The seizure of all the retirement accounts and 401K's is coming....[nk]
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  13. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    They is too late. (y) Cashed out at 59.5 yrs of age as allowed by law. Blew it all on wine women and song. OPSEC don't ya know. Actually I bought things I though would be good post SHTF. ;)
  14. bountyhunter

    bountyhunter Monkey+

    i got the feeling that the O mighty one is putting all these nazi,communistic laws into effect while he is still on the throne. Maybe by june or july if the election dont look like a total win/landslide for the demorats,then we will see another 911 style false flag,maybe a well thought out plan that puts Iran at fault,then its game on. Or maybe riots here in the streets (OWS) then the O mighty one will make the biggest mistake of his life and ask law enforcement and troops to fire on Amerian citzens..we can not let foreign troops (UN) start policing our county!! [stirpot] if we allow martial law this is good example of all US citizens [kneelsuckers]
  15. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    According to Wiki:

    As the Constitution did not exist at that time; this is not a basis for martial law.

    Jackson had the power and no one could stop him; simply stated he acted illegally.

    However, at that particular moment it would have been very ill advised to tell Andrew Jackson any such thing.

    That translates to it was legal in the South.
  16. GrandpaDave

    GrandpaDave Monkey++

    Hahaha... never gonna happen... I do all the cooking in my house... might spend a cold night on the couch though... her version of a FEMA camp I magine...
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  17. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    After looking over this I done some more research like into my retirement Here in WV Deputies are forced to pay into the Deputy retirment. Every 15day I pay 246.17 wich when I started I thought well atleast Ill have something later in life. Now our DPS and City police and other County workers pay around $50.00 a payday but we have our own retirment system. As I dug through alot of stuff I had know idea how or why it was even there I found where the state and the federal goverment if needed could barrow(STEAL) money out of our system or any other retirment system without asking or even telling us that they are doing so. Now second thoughts kick in about the money Ive paid in I am not allowed by law not to pay into the system. It comes out before I get my check and if I fight it I lose my job because the laws says I have to pay into the retirment. Looks like Ill be taking a screwing when SHTF.
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  18. fedorthedog

    fedorthedog Monkey+++

    I gotta dig a bigger hole
  19. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    Can you take a loan against your retirement? If so, you might consider silver and prep stuff, and if the SHTF who cares, you have withdrawn a large portion of the fiat money and replaced it with real wealth..... just saying
  20. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    Thats something Ive been looking into they told me I could take 80% of it. I think thats what Im going to do.
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