Knife Prototype...

Discussion in 'Blades' started by Dark Jester, May 21, 2014.


  1. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    A prototype of a knife one of my clients has been working on.
    This is a digitally edited version.

    Here are the spec's:
    440C SSteel
    Blade length: 5 1/8"
    Blade thickness: 3/16"
    Cutting edge: 4 1/2"
    Handle length: 4 1/2"
    Blade height: 1 1/2"

    Comments?
    The comments of the designer, maker and myself were erased...
    Prototype explained2.
     
  2. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I don't like the arch to the spine of the blade. It would likely over rotate on impact when thrown. Throw balance would Also be effected, so spin speed would require retraining. YMMV.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2014
  3. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    This knife was not designed to be thrown. It was designed for heavy duty uses, e.g., splitting wood w/ baton.
     
  4. BTPost

    BTPost Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

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  5. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    I didn't say it was a Bush Knife, just that it was designed to do heavy work including splitting wood w/ a baton.
    Though yours is indeed a great tool, is not a Bush Knife either. It is a kukri machete.
    Or were you meaning it as Crocodile Dundee, "Now THAT'S a knife? ;)
    I use one and find them indispensable and are also excellent for splitting wood.
     
  6. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    A knife is many things. Since I like to throw things (hachets, knives, stars, spikes, ) I always look at how it would throw. To limit a blade in what it can do by design, is in my opinion, short sighted. I've even been known to pick up a stack of barn spikes and start throwing.( surprisingly accurate).
     
  7. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    Versatility is one thing, but expecting something to do too much usually results in mediocrity...
     
  8. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    You asked for opinions, I gave mine. You don't like it? Too bad, I will bow out here.
     
  9. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    And I am giving my opinion as well...
     
  10. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Nope, yours was intentionally removed......;)
     
  11. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    Intentially removed? I'm not sure I understand.
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2014
  12. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    read/Post number one. you made yourself an observer, not a participant.
     
  13. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    Still not sure I understand...
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2014
  14. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

     
  15. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    Those comments on the picture were from another conversation with people not on this forum.
    I'm sure they would not want their comments displayed so I removed them.
    I'm not sure how that would exclude me from commenting further.
    Nevertheless, we can move on...
     
  16. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    I took that to mean you wanted unbiased opinions ( not your own) letting the knife stand on it's own. If that were correct, then guiding the discussion would be counter productive. Again, I'm done here.
     
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  17. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey..... Moderator Site Supporter++

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  18. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    Specs provided point to this being another mass produced wantabe "special knife".

    Too short as a fighting knife.

    Not large enough as a "wood splitting knife".

    Top of blade curved which does away with any baton use for splitting.
     
  19. Dark Jester

    Dark Jester Quester...

    What is it about the specs that make it a wanna be "special knife"?

    I'm not sure of the blade length you would need for a fighting knife, but it handles quite well and if plunged into your chest, would do a good job as well. ;) Force Recon's knife is the Bark River Bravo 1 w/ a blade length of 4 1/4". This is longer by 7/8".

    Wood Splitting? Your probably right, but it did do a decent job on 1-2" pieces of wood and the curved part didn't seem to interfere. Nevertheless, If I were going to split wood w/ a baton, I'd use my kukri which is curved as well.

    I used this particular knife on a few hunting trips and it did the job well; field dressing, camp chores, etc.
    The first knife of this design was made w/ 1095 carbon steel. As a survival knife, it had good features as well; e.g., the squared top edge made it easy to strike a flint or ferro rod.

    Thanx for the input...
     
  20. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey Site Supporter

    Dark Jester Q. What is it about the specs that make it a wanna be "special knife"?

    Just that it is a run of the mill design that has a number of negatives. Start with the lanyard loop, as I see it the loop extends below the scales and would allow the finge/hand to slide into this hard edge. End result is a damaged finger, in a survival world this is not good.

    Dark Jester Q.I'm not sure of the blade length you would need for a fighting knife, but it handles quite well and if plunged into your chest, would do a good job as well.Force Recon's knife is the Bark River Bravo 1 w/ a blade length of 4 1/4". This is longer by 7/8".

    There is a reason some state laws restrict a carry knife to 5". There is also a reason that the Mil carry combat knives with a 7 inch blade, ribbed handles and blade protection.

    That reason is:

    1. Angle of attack
    2. Depth of gear or even clothing that needs to be penetrated.
    3. Handle is too short and does not appear to have any anti skid properties.
    4. No blade guard to speak of.
    5 FORCE RECON? Knife names do not mean much.
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2014
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