Legislation to Surplus 1911s with the CMP Moves Forward

Discussion in 'Firearms' started by HK_User, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Legislation to Surplus 1911s with the CMP Moves Forward
    by Max Slowik on July 18, 2017
    Related Tags: .45 ACP, Buzz, Gun Control, Military, News, NRA, R2KBA

    The CMP may finally get the chance to surplus over 100,000 of these 1911 pistols. (Photo: M62/Wikimedia)

    The bill to surplus more than 100,000 1911 pistols through the Civilian Marksmanship Program is inching closer to passage. The Civilian Marksmanship Program, or CMP, has been unable to sell the pistols so far due to political pressure.

    Last Friday the House of Representatives passed the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, which includes the language necessary to surplus the handguns. This will make it possible for the Army to transfer some 100,000 .45 ACP Model 1911 pistols to the CMP.

    Technically the Army has been able to surplus the 1911s since 2016. However, legislators worded the 2016 NDAA to leave the decision up to the Secretary of Defense. The bill also capped the number of pistols the Army was allowed to surplus at 10,000 per year. Under the Obama administration, the Army surplussed no handguns.

    “This year’s language, however, would effectively make the transfers mandatory and would remove the yearly cap,” praised the NRA in a statement. “Currently, the military has some 100,000 excess 1911s sitting in storage at taxpayer expense.”

    “Transfer of these historically-significant firearms would ease a burden on the government’s heavily indebted balance sheet and help preserve important artifacts from the era when the U.S. military defended Western Civilization from worldwide fascism and aggressive Communist expansion.”

    That doesn’t mean Americans will get to buy these guns in the near future. “They are still in the hands of the U.S. Army and there are still a few hurdles to clear,” said CMP spokesman Steve Cooper in an email to GunsAmerica. “The House and Senate each of their versions of the Defense Appropriations legislation which require resolution.”

    “We are still very hopeful and we’ll be patient with the process,” added Cooper.

    See Also: Buying Garands from the Government with the CMP
    The Texas Hill Country Shooting Club earned the first place spot in the precision competition at the CMP Nationals. (Photo: CMP/Facebook)

    If passed, the CMP will be able to transfer these guns to buyers the same way new guns are sold. Buyers will undergo background checks and stores would have to keep records of the transfers in-store.

    Although the pistols, which were in service starting in the Philippine-American war before World War I, come with the original 7-round magazines, the NRA expects some legislators to push back against the bill. The NRA is asking gun rights supporters and gun collectors to contact their representatives to urge them to sign on to this legislation.

    The CMP is a government-chartered program to teach firearms safety and shooting skills. The organization previously sold 1911 pistols until political pressure forced them to stop distributing handguns. Today, the CMP specializes in teaching shooting skills and hosts programs for adults and youths across the country.
  2. arleigh

    arleigh Goophy monkey

    Shooting needs to become more of a national past time, like many other sports, so that there are ranges in every small town.
    Private clubs are nice, and have their place, but they keep out the newbe and those just exploring the sport. Plus membership is really expensive.
    Seems to me that if we want more support socially , it needs to be made more available and stir regular competition .
    I tried to see if I could get enough support here but apparently the locals like going out of town where ranges are already established.
    It's not just having the money for the building and business license and insurance ,but it's getting the city Oky Doky .
    The more people that feel engaged have a dog in this fight.
    HK_User and Merkun like this.
  3. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Yup, it's good that a local state University has a shooting club. They reload and use M1s,Springfields and the AR15.
  4. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    I would LOVE to get another to match the one I got from my grandfather. I'm not dropping a thousand dollars on one which is what I heard they might end up going for.
  5. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Just depends on supply and demand.
  6. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    And condition, we hope --
  7. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    Would love to have one just to honor the WW2 troops. Can't devote a thousand bux to that, though.
  8. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    The standard for sale of complete rifles has been in at least three groups as to condition.

    Another rating is collectors value.

    Unsafe to fire weapons are broken down and sold for parts even those parts are rated and priced according to condition..

    I expect to see the same with the 1911s.
  9. Merkun

    Merkun furious dreamer

    My main point was that I do not know where this $1000 idea came from. In the back of my mind, I get that someone reached down between his legs and yanked that figure out from a dark place; so far I've not seen a credible source using any figures. Not saying it isn't going to be in the range of 4 figures, but I am saying pending someone reliable inspecting and valuing the pieces, we got nuthin but guesswork. If there IS a source out there, I'd love to see it.
  10. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

  11. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus

    That's three one I initially read last year and where the $1k figure came from.
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