For the information of monkeys resident in Australia...'solvent traps' are prohibited items, and possession of one will attract prosecution. Solvent Trap = Legal Problems! - Shooters Union Australia SA farmer avoids jail after importing firearm parts online Edit: I am not making a value judgement here, about solvent traps but am just relating a fact about the law on sound suppressors here in Australia...there are points both for and against the legality / illegality of this kind of equipment. Andy in Aussie is quite correct in stating that there are moves afoot in Australia to relax the laws relating to sound suppressors / solvent traps (in some jurisdictions). Legislation concerning sound suppressors is vested in the States and Territories, with each State / Territory legislating laws on this issue. It has to be said that not all of the opposition to the relaxation of these laws is from 'liberal', socialist, rabidly anti gun commies....there is some opposition from farmers who tend to be more conservative than hipster city slickers. Farmers join gun control groups in opposition to silencers
In New Zealand silencers are an over the counter product, buy a new rifle, grab your cleaning kit, sling, case and silencer all together. Here of course they are not. On eBay Aus as recently as a couple of weeks ago there were some thinly concealed devices available for local purchase, just stupid and dumb, it is a quick way to a legal issue. When I was growing up every second person had a suppressor for their .22. They were legal in South Australia (but nowhere else) and they ran a simple mail order service. Getting caught with one was mostly a stern talking to unless you were otherwise a wrongdoer (criminal activity, robbery etc) then they would add the charge for the suppressor. Now it is much more serious..... There are some moves afoot here to make them available on a similar basis to the US (no tax just the checking) but so far the screaming anti-firearms types all invoke "assassination" and such to frighten off the politicians.
Remind your politco's that none have been assassinated with a suppressor ever, Hell convince them their safer with someone using a suppressor as it throws their aim off by several feet.....See if they swallow that hook,line and sinker!
Actually here more than a few have been killed with suppressed firearms, and in the local illicit arms making workshops (think clones of MAC10s) suppressors are a given. That group were selling exclusively to the OMCG/MEOC crowd for @$15k per copy.
I've had "woke" people tell me they only buy "off paper"guns because the government is going to use 4473's to round up the "wrong think" kind of people. But everyone of these people HAVE BOUGHT guns after filling out a 4473 before. What makes them think that "jackbooted thugs" will be clever enough to use paperwork to track them, yet stupid enough to believe a "boating accident" story. If things have gotten that bad, then they won't care what you say and they will have changed the laws enough where it won't matter anyway.
I have been buying older guns like the Springfield trap doors,hi-walls and reminton rolling blocks,all single shots. The government will try to take the semi autos first and then the rest later. I keep two ruger mini thirty carbines and will have them in a safe place,no one will know except my two sons and two of my grand children. I also have three pistols,one a .45 acp,a .22 auto and the other a .22tcm-9mm in a safe place.I have eighteen revolvers from a .22 up to .44mag that I have bought without papers that I keep in my safe. Hopefully they will leave the single shots and revolvers out because crazy people really do not think at this point that revolvers even exist now. You never hear of a single shot being on the news always it’s “the evil old auto assault weapons.”The autos will be brought out when the time comes. It’s the same thing with my shotguns.
The main thing to take away from this is that, It's better to pay the $200 tax upfront than to pay a $10,000 retainer to a lawyer who won't be able to win the case, but may get you a few less years in prison.
You should end the ban on silencers. It's pretty stupid. We can own them in the US, but it's kind of a pain in the ass and is a 5 to 10 month wait. I legally own 2 and waiting on number 3 trying to decide what i want for number 4 and 5.
I think the closest we can come to radically changing suppressor laws in America is to donate to GOA's defence fund for Jeremy Kettler. He is the man who made and sold suppressors in Kansas according to Kansas state law, but (I have to say knowingly) broke federal law to do so. If the supreme court hears the case and by some miracle overturns the federal conviction, it will open the door for states to de-criminalize suppressors much like some states treat marijuana.
Silencers are only illegal in places like CA, NY, NJ, IL, DC, HI and a few more of those tiny retarded east coast states where you would think they would want people to use them. I think they are legal in about 42 states.
Those states are why the "Hearing protection act" will NEVER move forward let alone pass. They will hijack every other piece of legislation to defeat it. But, if we can link it to the de-criminalization of marijuana efforts or eliminating mandatory minimum sentencing as states' rights we might have a chance.
I prefer loud noises. My 45/70 going off will make anyone with bad intentions rethink what they are doing.
I think getting holes blown through stuff and bullets bouncing off things with out having any idea where it's coming from is way more scary. Plus if the perp can't say with any certainty where the shots came from they can't prove who did it. If they didn't here where it came from then bullets could have came from another zip code.
The one reason I'd like a suppressor would be to shoot feral hogs and not spook them. I loathe hogs. 'corse.bacon is the food of the gods. No hogs no bacon. Life's dichotomy?
