Malaysia Airlines makes the news again, shot down over Ukraine

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gunbunny, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. gunbunny

    gunbunny Never Trust A Bunny

    The interwebs are going crazy this afternoon. If this region wasn't responsible for two other world wars, it might not have been as newsworthy. Sorry, that was a really bad, satirical joke.

    Here's a link to one of the first stories I've read about it: First Photos Emerge Of Malaysian Airlines Plane Wreckage | Zero Hedge Don't bother unless you haven't read anything about it yet.

    When you're up to speed on the incident, ask yourself a few questions:
    1) Who profits the most by this "accident"
    2) The news was already ready with an expedient culprit- the stolen BUK SAM system operated by the Ukrainian rebels.
    3) Details of the capabilities of this system may be underexaggerated because this system was not labeled for 30,000+ feet. Maybe not?
    4) Kind of coincidental it was a Malaysian Airlines 777, huh?

    Again, too many questions about a subject that was thoroughly covered and quickly explained by the media.
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  2. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Would be interesting to compare some part serial numbers with parts from the other Malaysian 777.
  3. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    Interesting comment via /.

    "the leader of the Ukrainian separatists (Mr. Putin's puppets) bragged about the shootdown (mis-identifying the plane as a Ukranian Antonov) and even put photos of the smoking wreckage with the announcement BEFORE word got out that it was a civilian 777 from Malasia. THEN he took down his postings (stupid moron is as dumb as many western politicians who think you can hide or "take back" something after it hits the www). Now, apparently, Putin's puppets at his mouthpiece "RT" are claiming it was not his puppets because they would not shoot down such a plane because it could have been Putin's plane that got shot down if Putin had been flying there at the time.

    The ONLY "false flag" involved here is all those "Ukranian Separatists" Putin has injected into the Ukrain in order to stir things up and give him a fig-leaf of a justification to eventually move-in to "protect" them by grabbing more of the Ukrain. Putin is following Adolf Hitler's playbook perfectly and the Europeans are following the same path of willful-blindness and capitulation they followed in the late 1930's. Human nature, it seems, never changes."
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  4. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    From mashable, also confirmed by other sources

    "Through his account, Russia’s version of Facebook, the self-proclaimed defense minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Igor Girkin — who goes by the nom de guerre Igor Strelkov — boasted about shooting down a plane.

    "We did warn you — do not fly in our sky," he wrote.

    Thinking it was a Ukrainian transport plane, Strelkov added that “a plane has just been downed somewhere around Torez, it lays there behind the 'Progress' mine,” referring to the mining town of some 80,000 people.

    “And here is the video proving another 'bird' falling down,” he continued. “The bird went down behind a slagheap, not in a residential district. So no peaceful people were injured,” Strelkov wrote, adding that there is also information about a Ukrainian military plane shot down.

    However, Strelkov deleted the post when he found out it was actually a commercial jetliner carrying 295 innocent people — not a military aircraft."

    Pro-Russian Rebel Commander: 'We Did Warn You — Do Not Fly in Our Sky'


    Igor Girkin aka Igor Strelkov is believed to be former KGB/FSB
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2014
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  5. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart Snow Monkey Moderator

    Did anyone save the original Post? Just wondering....
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    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

  7. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

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  9. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

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  11. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator


    A phone call between rebels where they are heard to say ‘holy s***’ when they realised their error was intercepted by Ukraine’s security services, according to a Ukrainian newspaper.

    Militants nicknamed ‘Major’ and ‘Greek’ were recorded speaking as ‘Major’ inspected the crash site and found only ‘civilian items’.

    Also on the line were Igor Bezler, who authorities says is a Russian military intelligence officer and leading commander of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, and a colonel in the main intelligence department of the general headquarters of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, Vasili Geranin.

    The unverified transcript was posted online by the Kiev Post newspaper:

    Igor Bezler: 'We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

    Vasili Geranin:'Pilots. Where are the pilots?'

    IB:'Gone to search for and photograph the plane. Its smoking.'

    VG: 'How many minutes ago?'

    IB: 'About 30 minutes ago.'

    The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later, it was reported.

    Major: 'These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.'

    Greek: Yes, Major.

    Major: 'The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. We have found the first 200 (code word for dead person). A Civilian.'

    Greek: 'Well, what do you have there?

    Major: 'In short, it was 100 per cent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.'

    Greek: 'Are many people there?'

    Major: 'Holy s***. The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).'

    Greek: 'What kind of aircraft?'

    Major: 'I haven’t ascertained this. I haven’t been to the main site. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats and bodies.'

    Greek: 'Is there anything left of the weapon?'

    Major: 'Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.'

    Greek: 'Are there documents?'

    Major: 'Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.'

    Caution Ukrainian Website (some Ukrainian sites have been hacked by malicious Russian hackers)

    SBU intercepts phone conversations of separatists admitting downing a civilian plane (FULL TRANSCRIPT; VIDEO)

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  12. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    Ukrainian intel, Russian audio with English subtitles.

  13. Ajax

    Ajax Monkey++

    This is so sad. They should have never flown over a country in the middle of a conflict.
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