Mayday Assemblies

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Clyde, May 1, 2007.

  1. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    DO I ****ING CARE? GET THE **** OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU FREELOADING PIECES OF MAYAN SHIT! Go Celebrate Uno De Mayo in your backawardass 3rd world country. BOMB THE PROTESTS.....deport them like Davy Crockett would do..with Lead.

    I feel better.

    Protesters press for path to citizenship

    <!-- END HEADLINE --> <!-- BEGIN STORY BODY --> By PETER PRENGAMAN, Associated Press Writer 17 minutes ago

    Angry over recent raids and frustrated with Congress, thousands of people protested across the country Tuesday to demand a path to citizenship for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants.
    From Phoenix to Detroit to Miami, thousands of people carried American flags in the streets.
    Organizers say immigrants feel a sense of urgency to keep immigration reform from getting pushed to the back burner by the 2008 presidential elections.
    "If we don't act, then both the Democratic and Republican parties can go back to their comfort zones and do nothing," said Angelica Salas, director of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles. "They won't have the courage to resolve a major situation for millions of people."
    In Chicago, thousands of demonstrators carried American flags, signs and placards, including one that read "We may not have it all together, but together we can have it all."
    Melissa Woo, a 22-year-old American citizen who immigrated from South Korea, carried a Korean flag over her shoulder as she criticized politicians for "buckling at the knees."
    "Us immigrants aren't pieces of trash, we're human beings," she said. "To be treated as less than human is a travesty."
    Thomas Rodriguez, of Aurora, stood in Union Park wearing a shirt that said: "We are hard workers. We're not criminals."
    The 38-year-old has had no legal status since he came to the United States from Mexico in 1989 and is an employee at a Japanese restaurant in Chicago.
    "Recent raids have worried me," he said. "We worry deportations are leaving too many young people without parents."
    In southwest Detroit, hundreds of people wore red and white, and carried American flags to a rally.
    "Most of the undocumented people come here as a necessity of survival," said Rosendo Delgado, of Latinos United, one of the groups organizing the march. "For them, it's the only choice."
    A mariachi band played in Phoenix as marchers walked from the fairgrounds toward the state Capitol.
    "We want just reform," said Mayela Ruiz, another illegal immigrant. "I've been here 15 years. I've worked hard, paid my taxes. I've had no problems with the law and I'm afraid to leave my house. I want a law that would allow me to work and live in freedom but not like a slave."
    In Washington, D.C., about 400 members of Asian groups from across the country were set to make a lobbying push with lawmakers.
    This year's turnout was expected to be lower than the 1 million people who gathered for last year's May 1 activities.
    No rallies were planned in Atlanta, where 50,000 marched last year, because many immigrants were afraid of the raids and of a new state law set to take effect in July. The law requires verification that adults seeking non-emergency state-administered benefits are in the country legally, sanctions employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, and requires police to check the immigration status of people they arrest.
    "There's a lot of anxiety and fear in the immigrant community," said Jerry Gonzalez of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials.
    In New York, groups planned an "American Family Tree" rally, where immigrants would pin paper leaves on a large painting of a tree to symbolize the separation of families because of strict immigration laws.
    The event is a response to a White House immigration reform proposal in March, said Chung-Wha Hong, executive director of the New York Immigration Coalition.
    That plan would grant illegal immigrants three-year work visas for $3,500 but also require them to return home to apply for U.S. residency and pay a $10,000 fine. It has been roundly criticized by immigrant groups.
    Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean called the bill "insane" because it would require many illegal immigrants to return home before applying for citizenship.
    If all those individuals decided to go home on their own, "imagine what will happen to our economy?" he told a group of more than 100 party supporters at Miami's Parrot Jungle Island.
    He originally planned to address demonstrators in Miami but said he canceled because of scheduling conflicts. He planned to meet privately with rally leaders.
    About 400 people gathered in downtown Los Angeles a few hours before a march was set to begin. Many were dressed in red, white and blue and waved American and Mexican flags. Los Angeles County is home to about 1 million illegal immigrants, by far the largest concentration in America.
    Los Angeles public school teacher David Cid said he came to support his students, many of whom are suffering because of recent raids that have impacted their families.
    "They feel terrorized," said Cid, who declined to give more details about where he works to protect his students.
    Despite divisions over tactics and other issues, immigration groups and supporters said the diverse events will show the movement is stronger than ever.
    "Just because the 12 million people who don't have legal residency don't attend a march doesn't mean they don't want it," said Eduardo "Piolin" Sotelo, a popular Spanish-language disc jockey. "I tell my listeners that no matter what they do, just don't stop doing something."
    After last year's protests, reform legislation stalled in Congress and bipartisan proposals for illegal immigrants to gain citizenship have gotten more conservative.
    Organizers said Tuesday's turnout will be lower because stepped-up raids in recent months have left many immigrants afraid to speak out in public — a major change over rallies in 2006 when some illegal immigrants wore T-shirts saying "I'm illegal. So what?"
    "These raids have torn apart families," said John Crockford, a member of the Central California Coalition for Immigrant Rights.
    In Fresno, organizers planned a rally focusing on children whose parents had been deported. The San Joaquin Valley is home to thousands of seasonal workers who work illegally each year in the fields and construction industry.
    In Los Angeles, marches were set to include demands for a legalization program, a stop to the raids and an anti-Iraq war message. City and transportation officials were planning for as many as 500,000 people in downtown, believing it could be the largest in the city so far this year.
    Associated Press writers Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles; Garance Burke in Fresno, Calif., Laura Wides-Munoz in Miami, Sophia Tareen in Chicago, Giovanna Dell'Orto in Atlanta and Amanda Lee Myers in Phoenix contributed to this story.
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  2. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I lam very much afraid that I have little sympathy for illegals, nor for the families they either brought with them or aquired here. It just ain't right. Just how much worse are they going to be here if the "bread winner" gets sent home than if they stayed home? Sympathy is still found in the dictionary, right between you know what and you know what, but not chez moi.
  3. CRC

    CRC Survivor of Tidal Waves | RIP 7-24-2015 Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    My brother is a foreman for a Stucco Company here ...and works out on the beach where another new condo or hotel is going up every stinkin day...NO!!

    The last 2 weeks....INS has been everywhere..

    Geoff says he starts each day with at least 40 workers...and by 1:00 or 2:00? He MIGHT have 12...

    They leave their tools, cell phones...anything they aren't carrying and are over the fence.....

    I've never lived anywhere with any ethnic diversity before..(I know, I know....sheltered life....oh well.....) .this is a first for me.....and it just amazes many there are here...

    One guy ran, and jumped a fence.....ummm..he should have looked first. He jumped on to Tyndall AFB....Federal property...

    yeah...he landed in the brig out there....and for some reason that just struck me as funny, in an ironic sort of way......

    There are a lot of problems with Unions here, so there are a ton of day labor places as well.....and as long as you have a green card....falsified or not.....they will put you to work...and for $7 an hour.....

    I just sit back and watch it all unfold.....[dunno]
  4. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    [LMAO] [LMAO] [LMAO]
  5. Blackjack

    Blackjack Monkey+++

    Stop holding back now.... tell us how you really feel :)
  6. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

  7. Minuteman

    Minuteman Chaplain Moderator Founding Member

    I get so tired of people making this out to be just a bunch of hard working families trying to better themselves.

    Come spend a week or two here on the border and see what it's like.
    Car jackings, high speed chases down the roads we drive everyday, kidnappings, murders. Yeah there may be some of these illegals coming here just looking for work, but they have already broken the law getting here and most of them don't mind breaking more to get away from the border where they are safer.

    Most of the dozens a week that the BP are rounding up around here have been from El Salvadore, Guatemala and other central and S.A. countries. And life is cheap where they come from.

    I wish some of those liberal, live and let live idiots would come down here and go around in these remote scrub lands and look for those honest hard working folks just trying to feed their families.
    They'd be tied to a tree, raped, robbed and most likely killed in a week.
  8. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Amen. I was born and raised 60 miles from the border. I am glad the rest of the U.S. is finally starting to become aware. Those of us that have lived the life close to the border have seen this building for a long time. I don't have a problem with people coming to our country to seek work, when they do it LEGALLY. These people are trespapssers. You wouldn't let someone break into your house and allow them to live with you. I don't care how many tried. I still think there is a Fox behind the Bush. This coming from a two-time Bush voter. NO!!
  9. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I find the attitude of entitledment to anything, by anyone - legal, illegal, American born, beyond annoying.

    I heard on our local news the other night that a 4 yr old child was sexually assaulted and the admitted perpetrator was an illegal visiting his grandmother. The assault took place in the grandmother's house. The news said "he may face deportation"

    That made me think about the options - is it better to keep him here behind bars, at our expense, or ship him home where he may or may not face penalty but will certainly try to enter the U.S. again in the future?
  10. standfasttoo

    standfasttoo motivated

  11. Ozman273

    Ozman273 Monkey+++ Founding Member

    Im all for the pursuit of the American dream, when it is done legally. What chaps me the most about these illegal aliens is how they act like they're entitled to citizenship just because they jumped the border.
  12. andy

    andy Monkey+++

    there lucky its the USA in the any other country(iran, former USSR, china) they'd be shot on sight or at least round up and never heard from again
  13. E.L.

    E.L. Moderator of Lead Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Like they do in their home country..............Meheco.
  14. andy

    andy Monkey+++

    ya good point
  15. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    We may need to becareful .... "Unlicensed; undocumented ;illegal immigrant" may describe a wholefreefloating class of humanity after they want to chip and card us all,And folks like us make for the border to avoid the sweep squads. "IDENTITY CRIMINALS WILL BE PROSECUTED"..
  16. FalconDance

    FalconDance Neighborhood Witch

    Ummm, hello? There IS a path to citizenship already in place -- the illegal immigrants have simply refused to follow it and the government has refused to enforce it.

    Period. End of story. Move along now. There's nothing more here to bitch about (if you're an illegal).

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