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Meese: Obama Risks Impeachment If He Uses Executive Order for Gun Control

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by Tikka, Jan 15, 2013.

  1. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    Meese: Obama Risks Impeachment If He Uses Executive Order for Gun Control

    Should the federal government regulate guns of any type?
    Yes, it should

    No, it should not

    Should Congress ban semi-automatic weapons?
    Yes, it should

    No, it should not

    If Congress does not act, should President Obama use an executive order to ban or strictly control the sale of semi-automatic weapons?
    Yes, he should

    No, he should not

    Do you agree that the Second Amendment gives citizens the right to own and bear guns without infringement?
    Yes, I agree

    No, I don't agree
  2. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    A recent poll conducted by the National Association of Chiefs of Police indicated that almost 64 percent of police commanders and sheriffs favor a law allowing private citizens to carry concealed firearms for protection. Almost 73 percent said that citizens should not be restricted from purchasing more than one weapon, and 96 percent say they believe criminals obtain firearms from illegal sources.

    Unfortunately most states - especially those called Blue States due to their Liberal-leanings - continue to prohibit private citizens from carrying concealed handguns.

    "The mainstream news media have been aware that several antigun proponents are carrying concealed firearms but have failed to expose this hypocrisy. This writer's efforts to discover how many other anti-gunners are also packing heat - a right they wish to deny other citizens - met with limited results.

    Not only does Schumer carry a handgun, the New York City Police Department also provides armed escorts for the good senator. In fact, the Government Accounting Office -- the investigative arm of the US Congress -- slammed Schumer's use of police resources for personal protection. It's clear that Schumer believes he's special. He wishes to ban private citizens' ownership of firearms, while he enjoys layers of protection.

    "No wonder Chuckie Schumer shoots his mouth off so much - he's able to protect himself," says a 25-year police veteran.

    Also, a check of Pistol License records shows that Senator Schumer possesses an "unrestricted" pistol permit, a rarity in New York City. Licenses are distributed in different categories in the Big Apple: Target Permits allow only use of a firearm at a licensed firing range; Premises Permits allow weapons to be kept in a home or apartment; Restricted Permits allow the gunowner to carry their firearms concealed but only within the purview of their job (security, jewelers, armored car guards, etc.). So it's evident that Senator Schumer has two sets of rules -- one for Americans and one for himself.

    And then we have Senator Diane Feinstein on the Left Coast who possesses something more rare than a conservative Republican in San Francisco - an unrestricted concealed weapons permit. Apparently without shame, she participated in a citywide gun turn-in program that was intended to create some kind of statue from the donated guns that were to be melted down. One of her police body guards let it slip that she contributed a cheap model for the meltdown, while retaining her .357 magnum revolver for her own personal self-defense.

    Hypocrisy is not limited to politicians when it comes to the Second Amendment. For Example, well-known Washington-based columnist, Carl Rowan, often wrote about the ills of firearms ownership. Until, that is, he shot and wounded a teenager who trespassed on his property. The white teenaged boy claimed he wanted to try Rowan's swimming pool. Rowan, an African-American, retaliated with deadly force using a firearm. That's when the news came out that Carl Rowan, gun-control advocate, actually possessed a license to own firearms.

    Another example is the loudmouth entertainer, Rosie O'Donnell, who once ran roughshod over conservative actor Tom Selleck because of his stance supporting the Second Amendment. Although Ms. O'Donnell doesn't carry a gun, she has three armed bodyguards who protect her, her wife and her children, something the vast majority of hardworking Americans could never afford. Isn't it comforting to know all these Liberals are looking out for us?

    Federal Observer Articles - Federal Observer

    Read the whole article
  3. brandonnash

    brandonnash Monkey

    Wow, I knew there were hypocrites but not to this level. I thought the Michael Moore owning haliburton stock was at the top but this is right up there. Here is old chucky shooting a tec-9.

  4. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King Site Supporter

    Impeachment is a joke...

    Has everyone forgotten that the socialist faction of the Statist Party has a majority in the Senate...where 2/3 would be needed to convict?
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  5. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Wasn't Clinton impeached? What good did it do? he was not removed from office.
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  6. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    So hush, lay down and let them take your Rights and walk over you.

    That is exactly what many said about Heller vs DC until Heller won. Right now there are attorneys offering their services pro bono to take on NY's new law. If no one bothers, they win without a fight.

    Even Harry Reid is ducking.. Carney was on the news tonight with some lame statements and avoiding EOs.
    Tomorrow we will see if Herr Reich Fuhrer is that stupid; however, the polls are saying we the people disagree overwhelming.

    Y'all can roll over without a even a word fight.

    But we in it shall be remembered-
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.

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  7. NotSoSneaky

    NotSoSneaky former supporter

    Resistance is never futile.

    Look what Afghanistan did to the USSR.
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  8. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    Look what Afghanistan is doing to the US Military. Sorry to go peace and love circa 1969 on y'all, but there is nothing there we can do to reverse the 1000 plus years of backwards assed killing tribal and religious feuds. Every cent spent and every drop of american blood shed in this country is a total waste. Yes I am aware of Rare earth Metals/Elements in Afghanistan, and my feelings are that our state dept should warn all businessmen that the US will do nothing to protect them if they desire to enter this country for business purposes, and that the country is hostile to unbelievers and outsiders. Should businessmen wish to employ mercenaries for their protection, they should be allowed to do so with the warning that they do so at their own peril with regard to Afghani repercussions. Any american businessmen's or mercenary blood shed in pusuit or protection of monitary reward would not cause me to shed a single tear. As things now stand I weep way to easily for the families of, loved ones, and military member casualties, maimed or dead from the wasted effort in this rocky sand pit.
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  9. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Thank you Tac. Bring our young men and women home. Stop wasting them on an impossible mission.These people have been killing each other for thousands of years and they will keep on killing each other for thousands of years after we leave. Tired of losing the best of our young to protect greed.
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  10. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    Tikka those figures must be wrong. I heard the"O" on tv say the majority of Americans were for gun control. Surely you can't just get on tv and lie.
  11. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    LOL ..... Obummer is one of the slickest sweet talking liars I have ever seen. And has been for more than a decade publicly.
  12. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King Site Supporter

    And you just go on believing that impeachment proceedings mean anything when the constitution doesn't any more. Waste your time and energy promoting something that has zero chance of making a difference and just plays into the illusion that we still have a constitutional government.

    You can characterize recognizing that the situation is too far gone for impeachment as "laying down" if you wish, but I hope you won't mind if I point out the futility and just plain stupidity of thinking that close to half of the socialists in the Senate will oppose their leader.

    Afghanistan didn't defeat the USSR (and won't defeat the US) by calling for a vote of no confidence in the council of deputies...they did it by personal and frequently fatal acts of resistance.

    Yeah...I'll "hush and lay down" and you piss off and go play with political bullshit that has a snowball's chance of doing the job.
  13. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Not to be too critical here, but for the record, Russia was up against fully trained Mujahadeen courtesy of our CIA. They were essentially fighting Green Berets and the full might of the secret government along side Afghanistan "freedom fighters". But, to add to your own point, the United States is now fighting a fully supplied resistance fueled by its own prior proliferation as well as Russian involvement. I guess what goes around, comes around.

    Perhaps a better example would be to use the British (as much as I dislike doing so) with Churchill in the picture during the Nazi bombardments of World War II.

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  14. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    ...and he gives tax breaks to those he vilifies:

    Gun-Hating New York Pols Paid $6 Million to Bushmaster Rifle Manufacturer - Hit & Run : Reason.com

    Politicians Love Subsidizing the Guns They Want to Ban - Hit & Run : Reason.com
  15. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    It seemed the outcry changed 0bama's 19 EOs into what Congress should do..

    I didn't characterize anything; you did for me. Agreed, you have hushed and laid down.

    Afghanistan just where did that come from? Oh got it, the armed fatal resistance, acts of courage under fire; if you are sincere and the fix requires such measures, then go for it.
  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    Oh come on you two! Can we all agree that the system is corrupt to the point at which there's very little, if no hope at all to be able to solve this mess? The best thing we could do is continue to keep pressure on to slow them down, at least for now since it's probably the only non-violent action we have left. After all, even Brzezinski admitted the internet era brought about an impossible hurdle for the globalists --at least, until they can find a way to regulate and control the web exclusively. These guys aren't untouchable, they have fears and they can be beaten.

    But we do have to stand together.
  17. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    Down is dead. You said you were in the Sandbox so you know it also.

    REPUBLICAN INSIDER: Obama Livid Over Gun Rights Backlash

    Like me you were probably watching the president’s gun control speech today. Was told this morning the presentation today was a revised version that was completed just last night after a bunch of back and forth between the White House and Senate leaders. Guessing that would be Harry Reid mostly. Last week the president was ready to go all in on the executive order scenario. Confiscation was going to be in play. Then the backlash came and it forced Obama to back off. He didn’t want to but after Reid said it was a no go, and the NRA was preparing to go to war with the White House, the president was given a revised script and that is what we heard this morning. You could tell too. Obama stumbled over the words more than usual. He didn’t have the time to prep the script like he normally does. Probably fuming he was forced to read the new version also.
    This time WE WON and OBAMA LOST.

    If people want to know how to go at the administration, this is how you do it. Be informed, and make your voices heard. This is an example of how the new media I have been telling you about can work against the globalists. It can be a huge weapon against them. And a big thank you to the NRA. It took on Obama and didn’t back off. A big part of the plan coming from the White House was to cripple the NRA and make it a liability for 2014 and beyond. That didn’t work and it will be a liability, but one that is going to hurt Democrats, not conservatives. Big time backfire for the Obama White House. I was told it “rocked them on their heels”. They fundamentally don’t understand the American people and they didn’t see this backlash coming. They have the media, and the glossy presentations, but they don’t really understand the American people and this debate was a pure example of that being played out. I love it!

    Congrats to the state governments that were willing to voice opposition too. They did that and took on a lot of risk. Heard a list is being made and federal dollars might be taken away from them. Those state leaders knew that could happen but took on the administration anyways. That’s real leadership and courage being put on display for all of us and voters living in those states need to let those leaders know it is appreciated. You know how I feel about how important the 10th Amendment is, and today was also a big victory for the 10th Amendment against the Obama White House.

    Now from here it’s clear Obama wants to try and use the issue as leverage for the 2014 midterms. They are hoping they can salvage something out of what became a fiasco for them. I just don’t sense enough Democrats willing to play along on this one though. Apparently the NRA and some other groups were lining up primary challengers to Democrats who went along with the president’s gun control plans and letting those Democrats know it was coming. That scared the heck out of them. Barack Obama is entering his lame duck phase, and the Democrats know it. After 2014 he becomes a museum piece. The president knows that too and it’s really ticking him off. We have to rub that in his face 24/7 while also building the conservative base back up into the kind of powerful entity it should be.
    When people get involved, and make some noise, they still have the power. Use the new media, contact the lawmakers both state and federal, and talk to the people around you. That is power. That is what makes America so great and that is what happened today.

    The president had his little moment, and was pretending it meant something, but he said nothing. That 21 (23) point plan or whatever it was, was hollow. It was a gutted version of what he was hoping to do as recently as a few days ago. Instead, he had to roll over and made a weak threat to Congress but that threat starts in the Senate and they already told him to shut up. Obama backed off. He lost this time, and it was all because of the American people. His media will try to spin it as something different, and if he gets another chance, the president will be right back to pushing for confiscation, but for now, we won this particular fight.
    This victory is a lot bigger than you’ll hear in the regular media. It’s a lot bigger than anyone who stood their ground will ever know about. The Obama White House was trying to go very big on this gun control thing, and couldn’t pull it off. And Barack Obama is livid about it. Like a spoiled brat he can’t believe he had to scrap the original speech for today’s version.

    Today was a great day for the good guys. Of course, there’s always another fight just around the corner, so we have to be ready. Let your readers know they did a great job on this. Each of them were a part of forcing the president to back off. Let’s do it again!
  18. Mechwolf

    Mechwolf Monkey+

    Where was this information obtained from?
  19. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

  20. Mechwolf

    Mechwolf Monkey+

    Thank you Cato. I'm hoping that this is correct, and we can all finally quit stressing about this. I have been on edge for the last 2 weeks. I may get some heat for saying this but I do agree with background checks for everyone. That is the only piece of legislation that I would compromise on.
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