Mex gangs maintain permanent lp/ops in thearizona hills

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tango3, Jun 22, 2010.


  1. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    regularly resupplied with water food,batteries etc.

    FOXNews.com - Mexican Gangs Maintain Permanent Lookout Bases in Hills of Arizona



    Mexican drug cartels have set up shop on American soil, maintaining lookout bases in strategic locations in the hills of southern Arizona from which their scouts can monitor every move made by law enforcement officials, federal agents tell Fox News.
    The scouts are supplied by drivers who bring them food, water, batteries for radios -- all the items they need to stay in the wilderness for a long time.
    Click here for more on this story from Adam Housley.
    “To say that this area is out of control is an understatement," said an agent who patrols the area and asked not to be named. "We (federal border agents), as well as the Pima County Sheriff Office and the Bureau of Land Management, can attest to that.”
    Much of the drug traffic originates in the Menagers Dam area, the Vekol Valley, Stanfield and around the Tohono O’odham Indian Reservation. It even follows a natural gas pipeline that runs from Mexico into Arizona.
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    In these areas, which are south and west of Tucson, sources said there are “cartel scouts galore” watching the movements of federal, state and local law enforcement, from the border all the way up to Interstate 8.
    “Every night we’re getting beaten like a pinata at a birthday party by drug, alien smugglers," a second federal agent told Fox News by e-mail. "The danger is out there, with all the weapons being found coming northbound…. someone needs to know about this!”
    The agents blame part of their plight on new policies from Washington, claiming it has put a majority of the U.S. agents on the border itself. One agent compared it to a short-yardage defense in football, explaining that once the smugglers and drug-runners break through the front line, they're home free.
    “We are unable to work any traffic, because they have us forward deployed," the agent said. "We are unable to work the traffic coming out of the mountains. That traffic usually carries weapons and dope, too, again always using stolen vehicles.”
    The Department of Homeland Security denies it has ordered any major change in operations or any sort of change in forward deployment.
    “The Department of Homeland Security has dedicated unprecedented manpower, technology and infrastructure resources to the Southwest border over the course of the past 16 months," DHS spokesman Matt Chandler said. "Deployment of CBP/Border Patrol and ICE personnel to various locations throughout the Southwest border is based on actionable intelligence and operational need, not which elected official can yell the loudest.”
    While agents in the area agree that southwest Arizona has been a trouble spot for more than a decade, many believe Washington and politicians “who come here for one-day visit” aren’t seeing the big picture.
    They say the area has never been controlled and has suddenly gotten worse, with the cartels maintaining a strong presence on U.S. soil. More than ever, agents on the front lines are wearing tactical gear, including helmets, to protect themselves.
    “More than 4,000 of these agents are deployed in Arizona," Chandler says. "The strategy to secure our nation’s borders is based on a 'defense in depth' philosophy, including the use of interior checkpoints, like the one on FR 85 outside Ajo, to interdict threats attempting to move from the border into the interior of our nation.”
    Without placing direct fault on anyone, multiple agents told Fox that the situation is more dangerous for them than ever now that the cartels have such a strong position on the American side of the border.
    They say morale is down among many who patrol the desolate area, and they worry that the situation won't change until an agent gets killed.

    and vets are terrorists worthy of homeland security attention[freedom]???
     
  2. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    This is a foriegn invasion. Quite often Mexican military supported as has been shown numerous times in the recent past. It is overdue time for our nations leaders to release the dogs of war, and eradicate these foriegn invaders. Our military should be the tip of the spear with full technical support. Drones, Fully armed combat helos, etc. Let our special forces practice their skills with these scumbags.
    .
    We have a Southern Border!!! Now close it!!!
     
  3. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    I'm seriously sick of this ****. Send the NG down there, ARMED, and clean it up!!
     
  4. ghrit

    ghrit Ambulatory anachronism Administrator Founding Member

    Can't the local sheriff swear in a posse? If we are the cowboys the press tries to make of us, we might just as well live it. (An interesting side light would be seeing how many would back up their lips when the sheriff called them.)
     
  5. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    I heartily agree guys but with an "administration" ( they don't deserve the term "leaders") that prefers infantry in a warzone NOT patrol where they may engage the enemy with lethal force. This may have to be done by citizens "liberty units"."

    help wanted :
    long range centerfire rifleman, close quarter battle specialist and experienced back hoe engineers needed!

    C'mon down: earn your "paco-finder" badge; 7.62x51,5.56,7.62x39, lodging, 2meals a day, and gatorade provided free!!
    don't be late for 0500 morning briefing over coffee and freeze dried scrambled eggs.
     
  6. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn Mosquito Sailor

    What ever happened to the so called "minutemen civilian border patrol" ? Hey, I am ready to volunteer for the winter deployment (November until April), but they gotta reimburse me for my reloads.
     
  7. Tango3

    Tango3 Aimless wanderer

    they shut the area off to us civilians...
    Todays first challenge evade the forests service and border patrol..( shouldn't be too hard we'll just hire a coyote!)

    Yah know if I lived in mehico and my kids were starvin I'd be runnin through the AZ desert too...
    I'd just have the good manners to know whos house I'm in and not threaten to evict my hosts!
     
  8. Conagher

    Conagher Dark Custom Rider Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    I think they need to send down some A-10 Warthogs and some daisy cutters and just disinfect the area of the foreign invaders.......hell they are just doing it to start claiming part of Arizona as a Mexican state. Time for some real leaders in DC to eradicate the vermin and show Mexico that they need to keep their punks on their own home soil and not screw with us.
     
  9. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Time to first ship those 'leaders' in DC to Mehico City, ONE way. THEN the new leaders, drawn from the citizenry, send the fully armed combat force in to kick butt, and never mind the names...... complete 'disinfection' of the AO.
    Then do the same on the border. LOCK it DOWN.

    If Caldrone squeals, tell him to "come get some!" [freedom]


    It is WAY past time We Americans dealt with this problem - HARD!
     
  10. NGA Gunsmith

    NGA Gunsmith Monkey+

    The only way that we are going to get through to these guys is by using a language they understand, lethal force.
     
  11. SoCal09

    SoCal09 Monkey++

    They've been invading south Texas for decades, good luck on seeing any results.
     
  12. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

    INFERNO WARNING!! This is rough, not counting the subtitles.


    Here is one example of how they deal with illegal border crossing in South Africa, Maybe they dont have it so bad after all here.
    YouTube - South Africa: After Apartheid P1
     
  13. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    I hate that cr*p. No human being deserves that kind of treatment. Let that be a lesson of what can happen when your police get out of control.

    Concerning these cartels:

    If we ever degrade to the point of anarchy as in "Patriots" The cartels will be the real "outlaw biker gangs" we'll have to worry about. We think about looting in terms of a few inner city thugs grabbing a bunch of plasma TVs. But what if the whole nation of Mexico decided to join the cartels and loot the US?
    That's the real reason this has to be stopped NOW, before the tide rushes in.
     
  14. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Adventure Riding Monkey Founding Member

    Couple that with the pics of the massive weapons grab made recently in Mexico - full-auto weapons, grenades and rocket launchers - on their way UP from Mexico! NOT down as Ms. Klinton tries to convince us!
    Now, figure this is just the tip of the iceberg - a LOT of that hardware likely got through, and is being issued to MS13, La Raza and the "Reconquista" terrorists NOW. Storm's coming, it's only a question of WHEN? Can a few thousand PO'd Texans and Arizonans with hunting rifles and semiauto AR15's stave off a full-blown military-style armed invasion? They MUST have the US Military's help on this. But the plea falls on bobo's deaf ears - amazing he can ignore the cry for help with ears THAT big.....
     
  15. fortunateson

    fortunateson I hate Illinois Nazis!

    Meanwhile, they break out the helicopters and APVs to arrest a bunch of rednecks (Hutaree) who shot their mouths off after having too many beers.
     
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