Military style Police?what do you think?

There's plenty of other big thumpers out there. My friend for years really wanted a .460 Weatherby. But he was scared of his shotgun. I like 45/70,s boom.

 

Blue lives matter that is the new slogan.

I'm kind of over all the name calling. I had to listen to a woman the other day go off on the BLM and how critical it is. I just looked at her when she wound down and said. When are we going to call poverty problems, poverty problems instead of making it about racism?

 

Poverty matters! I still find it funny how saying All lives matter is bad. Divide and conquer.

 

I think the big problem is in policy, tactics and politics rather than equipment. Someone mentioned grenade launchers being scary or bad for cops to have but those launchers are also used for tear gas, flash bands and beanbag rounds. I for one am pretty ok with them being able to launch tear gas at rioters, flash bang into hostage situation to allow entry or beam bag at the crazy so can disable rather than have to kill. Likewise the 50 BMG, for that instance when someone upstairs a bull sized to level the town or some such.
It used tp be considered excessive and militant for LE to carry anything other than a side arm mostly revolvers only then had the original clock tower shooting where none had a rifle and had to get them from civilians and the incident when the bank robbers got bomb suits and carbines and all the cops had was side arms to bounce off them and they figured out they needed carbines.
Point being that just as in civilian hands the guns and equipment dosen't kill and isn't the problem but rather those who misuse it, so also with law enforcement. The local sheriff's dept when was at my farm having APCs and plenty of fire power was a good thing as they were on our side and good folks so knew they had gear to help out if things got deep, living back in middle of large city where it's us and them to most LE (with plenty of reason given by how citizens react when do their job even in right way) the mentality of LE is VERY different and them having a spare mag for side arm becomes excessive.
Point being if the policies and culture of the departments is right then them having great for any possible zombie apocalypse is a good thing and if the culture is bad then sling shots or sticks is to much to give them.

 

Oh, I can really see the cops going along with a QRF. Even now, most cops will admit they do not trust any "civilians".

 

Someone volunteered to buy the donuts?
Yes, that is unfair, but still --
I suspect, but cannot know, that all those vehicles and "person"power hanging around is detectives, not part of the QRF or SWAT or SOG subdivisions of the local cop shop. Wasting time and resources, sez me and maybe only me, that could be put into training the neighbors.

And yes, the feint to the bank when the real target is the post office is known and has surely been tried. At least it has been fictionally, so the idea came from somewhere.

 

I believe that one must prove them self to earn the responsibility of the equipment they use for the public's behalf.

 

Back in the 80's two guys set a lumber mill on fire and 30 minutes later robbed the Food Lion grocery store across town. It would have worked great except 3 stock boys went out the back door with mop handles and beat the sh*t out of the crooks when they came out the front door and held them for the cops. Happened in Rockwell NC and my best friend was one of the stock boys.

 

History of S.W.A.T.
The special weapons and tactics concept originated in the late 1960s as a result of several sniping incidents against civilians and police officers around the country. Many of these incidents occurred in Los Angeles during and after the Watts Riot. Upon critical examination of how each incident was managed by police, the leadership of the LAPD realized that an effective response to these dangerous situations was virtually non-existent. Officer John Nelson presented the special weapons and tactics concept to a young inspector by the name of Darryl F. Gates. Inspector Gates concurred and approved the concept of a small group of highly disciplined officers utilizing special weapons and tactics to cope with these unusual and difficult attacks.

The first Special Weapons And Tactics (SWAT) Unit consisted of 15 four-man teams. Members of each team, who volunteered from the ranks of patrol and other police assignments, had specialized experience and prior military service. Each unit was activated for monthly training or when the need for special weapons personnel actually arose. These units, known as "station defense teams," provided security for police facilities during civil unrest.

In 1971, the SWAT personnel were assigned on a full-time basis to Metropolitan Division to respond to continuing action by subversive groups, the rising crime rate and the continuing difficulty of mustering a team response in a timely manner. Metropolitan Division, which had a long-established reputation as the tactical unit of the Department, was organized into "A", "B" and "C" Platoons. The Special Weapons And Tactics Unit was given the designation of "D" Platoon, and at the same time formally adopted the acronym SWAT.

History may not repeat, but the echos are pretty loud right now...

 

Neighborhood QRFs are a great idea as long as the city/town LEOs don't arrest them for "taking the law into their own hands" while letting the bad guys continue to get away with rioting, burning, looting, and any other "...ing word" that's becomes a target of opportunity.

 

The last shooting in PA shows there's no reasoning with the burn loot murder mob.
The dude ran out of the house, clearly had a knife in his hand and chased the cop and got his ass shot dead.

 

the coppers arrested about a dozen from that first nite >> PA judge screwed them royally - $1M bail set - not getting out anytime soon - the 2nd nite was beyond peaceful ....