MMMKAY Who's gota .17 HMR???? I'm looking at presenting myself with a new rimfire fer xmas("wife got" (okay they're mine tooo!) new countertops installed yesterday) possibly a cz452 varmint in .22lr, but the .17 is interesting. I've never shot one. but I see there's alot of testimony to nickel and dime size grpoups at 50-75 and 100; THEN THERE'S HUNTING; HERE RABBITS: YouTube- .17HMR rabbit shooting They flip over and die right on the spot. cruisingthe forums thisa.m. I read: a poorly placed shot with the more "explosive" hmr (vs .22lr) can can destroy alot of meat . they are signifgantly more expensiveto shoot ($12-$13.00/50?) the.17hmr isnot as ubiquitous(sp?)i.e. available frickin' every where like the .22LR. Guess I 'd like to : Win a million bux or so; Comehome to a smiling friskie Christie Brinkley;.. Win a lifetime supply of duff's; Have a .22lr that groups like a .17 !!!! A man can dream... can't he? Aside from all that what are the "survival applications/implications of the smokin'.17HMR?