Monkey's and Political Posts

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Yard Dart, Feb 9, 2017.


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  1. I like all the political information I can read....keep it coming.

    10 vote(s)
    22.2%
  2. The amount of political post is about right for my taste.

    9 vote(s)
    20.0%
  3. Some days I think it is overwhelming and I try to ignore that content.

    14 vote(s)
    31.1%
  4. Sick of it, lets get back to other subjects on the Forum. Flogging a dead horse gets old.

    12 vote(s)
    26.7%
  1. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    Thought I would make a simple poll to see what the current temperature of our tribe is. Since the lead up to the election last November and continuing to date, we have been flooded daily with political comments, threads and minutia lambasting everything from the candidates, government and protesters actions. I am just wondering as a percentage, how many folks are happy with that continual drumbeat of politics... and how many want to get back to more survival/prepping related topics.

    It is very clear that the left leaning part of this nation thinks that if they scream loud and often enough, that their position will win the argument of popular opinion with the sheep. I for one hoped that the continual fighting, arguing and disagreements would subside after the election was over. But it appears that is not the case.... and the war of words is raging still.
     
  2. Motomom34

    Motomom34 Monkey+++

    I read on SM somewhere about the tinfoil news being too much but then I thought, in order to be a prepper you must have some belief that tomorrow may not always be as it is today. In order to be a prepper IMO one has to believe that there will be an event, whether a short term natural event or a long collapse, SHTF type situation. Why preppers like to keep their eyes on the state of the economy, politicians, immigrants etc??.... I think it is because our eyes are open and we are not blind to the goings on like the sheep (as they are so affectionately called by people) we know bad can happen, we are ready for when bad happens but we do not want to be blindsided.

    @Yard Dart I apologize for the rambling on your thread.
     
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  3. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    A bit of history -
    A "while" ago, the general discussion forum (and others) were inundated with political commentary to the detriment of the rest of the subforums. That resulted in setting up the politics subforum in the hope that all the back and forth would get put there, and so it did, exactly as intended. This mainly started (IIRC) around the time of the '08 (or maybe the '12, I so do not remember) elections. There has been, and always will be, slop over into other forums. To a degree, that is not necessarily a bad thing as long as those slopovers are short duration and not dragged out to the point where the thread is dominated by extraneous irrelevancies. It is also worth mentioning that recently, even some of the politics threads have gone way off topic to the detriment of the discussions. All the same, other than the deviations, we have the "right" amount of political rants. Thus spake me, and maybe me only.

    @Motomom34 - You're right about eyes open to what's going on in the world, and politics is part of that.
     
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  4. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    I will abstain from voting on this poll. I will abide by whatever admin and mods decide as long as it is approved by Melbo and is evenly applied. I am a news junky and certain things push my buttons and I am likely to respond with a post. Y'all carry on smartly and let me and all others know if something is decided upon so I can comply and not get banned. Thanks
     
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  5. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    There are a lot of politics because it's currently the most likely threat to our civilization and survival. If the biggest most likely threat was an earthquake, volcano, meteor, or disease, then that's what we would be talking about instead. Even economic disaster is tied at the hip to politics. I'd rather be aware than not.
     
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  6. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    A person can sift through new posts pretty quickly and bypass the ones that don't seem interesting.

    At the same time, the people especially interested in certain subjects can usually find a trove of material in a convenient subforum.

    When politics are hot, there'll be more political posts. When economics get hot, ditto. Or religion.

    And when the crops come in, there'll be more posts about cooking & canning.

    It's all good by me, y'all!

    (I've noticed Alien Abductions are up 1.8% for the quarter. Expect more AA posts soon.)
     
  7. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    The AA's must all be conservatives...it may explain why there are apparently relatively fewer conservatives on the streets and at the barricades adding to the general protest noise. ;)
     
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  8. Yard Dart

    Yard Dart Vigilant Monkey Moderator

    LOL, it was just a simple question and poll. There is no action to follow based on any results. It was a question I have heard and received a few times....so I thought to just throw it up to see what responses would follow. Just keep on trucking Tac....we like your rants. ;)
     
  9. Legion489

    Legion489 Rev. 2:19 Banned

    Having had riots right on my door step (no I did not move here, THEY moved here. I was here all along) and seeing the lib-tards doing lib-tardish things (banning free speech of anyone they don't like for example, oh, wait, that was here. Sorry. Well the local lib-tards do it too) I see political news as just another form of survivalim. If you don't know what your enemy is up to, you don't know squat normally or how to defend against it.
     
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  10. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    I think we have just about the right amount of Political and other societal discussions for now, like others have pointed out, the more informed we are, the better choices we can make!
     
  11. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey Site Supporter++

    Our absence from the protest sites is because we are too busy getting our ghillie suits ready for the big dance we hope never happens. Right nice of the lefties to all gather in one spot for us, though.

    I'd expect AA's to go down once Trump deports the illegal aliens back to Mars. The legal ones don't abduct folks very often.
     
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  12. Bandit99

    Bandit99 Monkey+++ Site Supporter+

    Politics is a major part of life and like @3M-TA3 said, "...it's currently the most likely threat to our civilization and survival." It's that simple.

    Quick story...My wife use to refuse to listen or talk politics and her refusal really put us in a damn tight spot when her country boiled over into a full blown revolution and people were in the streets rioting, robbing and killing. She learned the hard way that information is knowledge and knowledge is power. You want to live - you stay informed. Sounds corny but it's the world we live in.
     
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  13. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner Brewery Monkey Moderator

    [ghrit]

    People are frustrated and there is a need to vent. I just wish I could stop reading and seeing things that deplete my liquor supply...
     
  14. Ura-Ki

    Ura-Ki Grudge Monkey

    Simple Solution Dunerunner, stock up the Liquor supply! LOL
    Like I needed an excuse to drink!
     
  15. techsar

    techsar Monkey+++

    A more likely scenario is that more conservatives hold down jobs, therefor are not on the streets/at barricades

    I tend to look at most of the politics as a poor attempt at humor...
     
  16. Tevin

    Tevin Monkey+++

    I am also abstaining from voting. I read what I like and pass by what I don't. Whether it's "too much" or "too little" is kind of irrelevant to me.

    However, I will offer a few observations:

    • A lot of posts here, not just the political stuff, are not survival-related. Or at best it's quite a stretch to connect them to survival. It's not that big of a deal, but it does dilute the purpose of this forum.
    • Most of the vitriol and arguing, to the extent that it exists here on SM, has a common theme in that one particular member is usually in the mix. About 75% of their posts are disparaging comments or jabs. This person's religious & political positions are clearly far outside that of the average SM member. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, and I'm not saying we all need to agree, but I'm not sure why they are here other than to be unnecessarily provocative and tell everyone else they are wrong. Honest disagreement is fine; cheap shots and arguing just for the sake of arguing doesn't get us anywhere.
    • Related to my last point, I'd like to see a "reverse block" forum function. I don't need to block posts by people I dislike because I'm a big boy and can simply blow them off and keep scrolling. But it would be cool if I could block someone from seeing my posts and deny them the ability to reply to them.
     
  17. fmhuff

    fmhuff Monkey+++

    As long as threads and forums are marked "political" I don't see a problem. Just ignore them. Hijacking is another matter however.
     
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  18. DarkLight

    DarkLight Live Long and Prosper - On Hiatus Site Supporter

    If the overtly political stuff were kept in the political forums, that would be one thing. Same for the overtly religious (or anti religious) posts, but they aren't. The vitriol that stems from those two topics colors many posts and sidetracks many more threads.

    I do ignore some people, not because I'm not a big boy but for the same reason I don't invite certain people into my home or frequent certain parts of town or types of establishments. Easiest to ignore it if I never see it in the first place and the few times in the past that I have removed ignore, I was hit square in the face with proof that I'm not missing anything.

    If I could, from time to time, ignore a thread or even a sub-forum, I probably would for a time. I'm on the site more from my phone than anything else and I use the "New posts" feature and OCD makes it hard to leave stuff unread, so I see a bunch of, in my opinion, "shit post" thread titles in my scrolling to the threads I want to read before I go up and mark everything else read.

    The venom about some topics has turned my overall participation in the forum down recently, but I'm an adult and instead of making a stink I just move on and spend time doing other things or being elsewhere. I have no illusions about my importance in the grand scheme of things with regards to this site and although I'm a self admitted attention whore, I'm not looking for validation in this regard. If/when I log off for the last time, it will be less than a ripple and I know that...but back to the topic.

    Are political discussions and topics important, sure. Are we going overboard, for me, yeah, especially when we are no longer having dialog. We all know that person x is on this or that side of the fence, we don't need yet another post about the evils of z. It doesn't further discussion and in many cases it's an echo chamber for the choir we're all in.

    It's good to be aware of the political climate, it's not good to obsess over every little thing that drops. "We" are not going to convince "them" on this website, in this forum.

    Same goes for religion, but that's not what this thread is about.

    My $0.05 ($0.02 rounded up for inflation), or as @ghrit says, so says me and maybe only me.

    ***ETA***
    Written on the phone, had to fix some typos.
     
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  19. oldawg

    oldawg Monkey+++

    I gotta go with Tac on this one.
     
  20. Ganado

    Ganado Monkey+++

    it would be great if we could block whole threads, I have similar opinion to @DarkLight and I do wonder why some people are on here and never post survival stuff just political. And I do think it does detract from the original intent of this forum.

    OPINION: abstaining from voting and yet posting is like keeping silent about something. It is a tacit agreement to the status quo
     
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