monkeys beware, many coins are expected to drop to zero

Discussion in 'Financial Cents' started by sec_monkey, Feb 7, 2018.


  1. azrancher

    azrancher Monkey +++

    This is an opportunity, I'm buying when they hit Zero, I have just enough play money to make that investment.

    Rancher
     
  2. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Meh....[btc2] isn't the first speculative market that had assumed silly, crazy, popularity before it crashed, taking many investors' wealth with it...nor will it be the last. Think 'Tulipmania' and 'The South Sea Bubble'.

    Suckers and their money are easily parted, particularly if the marks' greed and vanity are being appealed to. The only thing needed is to come up with a succesful gimmick to attract the gullible punters. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. azrancher

    azrancher Monkey +++

    Didn't they put the Hunt Brothers in jail for doing something like this back in the 70's?

    Rancher
     
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  4. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    You know, Sometimes I'm glad I'm a mossy back Squatch as Melbo calls me, Never was interested in the Bit-con craze!
     
  5. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    Yep, it's a craze. It's just 1's and 0's.
    If you have them and don't know what to do with them.
    Open up your Bitcoin Wallet and send the balance to me
    bitcoin:15y51PPcoZV773CtxnjnHhjmakLVSZNQR3
    smbtc.

    I'll safely dispose of them.
     
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  6. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

    :LOL: :LOL:
     
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  7. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    But that is to preserve the counterfeiting for only the US Gov.
     
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  8. UncleMorgan

    UncleMorgan I like peeling bananas and (occasionally) people.

    Bitcoins and all their electronic kin are nothing more than future promises. They have no inherent value, no tangible existence, and they only exist as long as other people agree they exist.

    They only have value when others are willing to pay money for them. Hopefully, more than you did.

    That makes them, to my mind, a much less reliable store of wealth than Beanie Babies.

    The wheeling and dealing of Bitcoins, from the mining to the sale, is purely a matter of finding a bigger fool to unload them on. But when all the insiders cash our and leave their worthless "currency" revealed as the sham it is, the only holders left will be the biggest of the bigger fools.

    I knew long before the first large Bitcoin heists that Bitcoins were not secure. Not in the Cloud, not in Bitcoin Banks, and not even on the hard drive of your computer. That's the problem with pretend-money: at any moment everyone else can quit pretending.

    Bitcoins have been, to date, a classic pump&dump operation. When they get down to $50.00 each I suspect they'll get pumped again. And then dumped again.
     
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  9. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Yup must I look really stupid buying gold and silver.
     
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  10. Bishop

    Bishop Monkey+++

    Gold and silver are no different than this stuff that at one time was all used for Money gold and silver is ever where no different than lead stainless steel it's a metal that came from the Earth yap-3de5582da4f8b2e30812beb5aee6e672d3edde00-s900-c85. download. images (1).

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  11. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    The company I work for has over the years lost a lot of money to the "bankruptcy scam", and the "government debt scam" and the "calling of loan scam". Once the government gets involved, nothing is safe. The courts can make you pay to a judge money you received as payment for goods that were delivered and then order those good sold and the money be given to the "senior debtor" usually a bank or a government entity. They can cancel contract leaving you holding the bag or force you to finish deliveries and then pay you 10 cents on the dollar five years later. They can "call your loan" and demand you pay it off in in total in x days and seize your property even though you have never missed a payment or may have paid in advance. They can seize your bank accounts, car, house, 401K, business, etc, and it is up to you to prove them wrong. Seeing that they have control of all your assets, their lawyers work for free and they write the laws and staff the courts, you are going to lose. This is not tin foil hat paranoia, it is happening every day and has for all my life. The latest scam is the court ordering you into a nursing home for your own good, and then everything you worked for all your life disappears at $300 a day and up or in a hospital at thousands a day. Bit coin, US currency, rental properties, 401K, Social Security, etc, only have value as long as you are allowed to use them. Enjoy life to fullest, play the game as best you can, be as grey as you can, learn all the skills you can, don't buy tulips or bitcoins, etc, always try to have potatoes, firewood, and your health. Money is mostly used as markers in some weird social game in the US and in the long run most of the players lose. If you are warm, full, and healthy, does it really make any difference how many markers you have? I personally would rather watch Bishop play with his dog or Uncle Morgan's latest ball game at a school than all the posturing by the politicians or Gates or the latest internet billionaire.
     
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  12. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey

    Or as I have warned my Kids, "It's not how much you make but how much you get to keep".
     
  13. duane

    duane Monkey+++

    HK-User, that is the golden rule for personal finances, all else is just details.
     
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  14. TnAndy

    TnAndy Senior Member Founding Member

    Stainless steel is a man made alloy.

    And as much as Central Banks despise gold, it's not lead or copper or salt they hoard in their vaults.

    I'm not going to convince you what money is, and isn't. But time will.
     
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  15. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    That cantaloupe is worth a gram of gold, one lb of stainless steel, or 5 lbs of lead, whichever the seller and buyer agree is the medium of exchange for the deal.
     
  16. 3M-TA3

    3M-TA3 Cold Wet Monkey

    According to CNN an apple is equal to a banana...
     
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  17. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Keeping bag loads of Confederate paper money wasn't worth much except as inferior bum fodder or for lighting cigars with :LOL:
     
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  18. sec_monkey

    sec_monkey SM Security Administrator

  19. oil pan 4

    oil pan 4 Monkey+++

    Gold and silver have had value for as long as civilization has existed.
    That's a pretty good track record.
     
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  20. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    That, I have no doubt....now. But at the time, it was worth less than it was as a unit of exchange during "reconstruction".

    Some 160 years post bellum, its value due to its relative rarity is only that which a collector might be prepared to part with shekels with actual value for. Unlike silver and gold which can be rendered into...jewelry or teeth that has, throughout history been acceptable as reasonably portable means of wealth exchange.
     
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