Interesting to listen to now.... enjoy. http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/ronald-reagan-on-socialized-medicine/
House health care overhaul faces Senate stone wall <cite>AP – <abbr title="2009-11-08T18:17:57-0800" class="recenttimedate">2 hrs 53 mins ago</abbr> </cite> <!-- end .hd --> <cite>AP</cite> WASHINGTON - The glow from a health care triumph faded quickly for President Barack Obama on Sunday as Democrats realized the bill they fought so hard to pass in the House has nowhere to go in the Senate.
QS, the problem as I see it is that .... many of us have talked til we are blue in the face, and no one is listening. 220 to 215 was a pretty close vote. one can only hope it gets killed in the senate. My reps all know how I feel. The whole thing has almost
Even in the Inferno, my thoughts would be unprintable. Us olde pharts are going to get cut out anyway, we might as well start walking out into the storm while we can still walk. With all the ifs, ands, and wherefores in the bill, just wait around until they start writing the enabling regulations and procedures.
Just don't see how people support this kinda thing...there's always some who are convinced they are getting free health care at todays;' level of quality.
We will "not go quietly into the night....." - but for now, we have each let our views be known. I'm gonna sit this one out and "enhance my calm"..... "OOHHHMMMMM...... OOHHHMMMMMM......."
all the calling, all the letter writing, all the protests and this is what we get.......... all the boxes have not been checked.
The ship is sinking and the rats are having a fiesta. What else is there to do except smile and slowly head toward the dingy?
hmmmm. once it gets through the senate and we start to get an idea of what the final bill will look like I'm sure I will have a lot to say. the bill is already depressingly bland and i only expect it to get further gutted.
Well, one complaint is that for the first time in this Nation's history, Congress has mandated that a private citizen be REQUIRED UNDER PENALTY OF FINES OR IMPRISIONMENT to purchase a product or service. They are claiming they can do this under the Commerce Clause. You have no problem with that??? Let's change the product from health insurance to hybred cars - what is stopping Congress from passing a law that says every licensed driver must purchase a Honda Prius (in the name of stopping global warming) and those drivers who do not must pay an annual tax of $5,000 (to pay for their carbon offsets). Failure to purchase a Honda Prius would result in penalties of $250,000 or a maximum of 5 years in jail. I mean, it's better for everyone, right?
well if the government is going to run a public insurance option that dosent discriminate based upon pre-existing conditions then there's no incentive to buy insurance. everyone will just wait till they get sick to sign up and the plan will be broke in a day. to compensate they place a tax on everyone without insurance. not paying taxes has been a crime since the days they were called "tribute". really the whole plan is a convoluted cluster**** that will only make things very slightly better. possibly worse. we should just go to single payer. not the same situation without the buy-it-after-you're-sick-and-let-the-govvies-find-the-money contingency comming into play. also, building all those priuses would probably cause a lot more warming then they stop by burning less gas.
I guess I don't see the difference between a fine for not having insurance and paying a premium. So there is your single payor, dot gov. "really the whole plan is a convoluted cluster****" Yep, got that right.
They are going to need their "free Health Care" when we stop paying taxes, stop paying welfare, stop paying for the run-away .gov and all of their stupid socialist agenda; especially when they try to do something about it. You want it? Here it is; come and get it....but you better hurry because it may not last..(Bad Finger).
You obviously don’t care about personal freedoms and free choice, If it a socialist Government you seek there are lots around the world. In no time you will not be able to see the difference between The USA and the Soviet Union or <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1lace w:st="on">China</st1lace></st1:country-region>…..
I cannot put my thoughts on this matter into print. I will say this...it's going to be a very dark day when some ass hat tries to deprive me of my freedom for 5 yrs. S/he will rue the day. And that, as the saying so appropriately goes, is that. Byte
