My plan to secure the border

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by blackwidowbracelets, Sep 7, 2011.

  1. Bring all the troops home from all our foreign wars/bases and put them on the border. A fully equiped soldier every 5 feet, a tank and artillery every few hundred yards, drones and fighter jets constantly patroling the border. The Coast Guard in the water in TX and CA. All with the order to shoot on sight of a person entering illegally.

    Do you think anyone would consider trying to come across the border illegally then?
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  2. Opinionated

    Opinionated Monkey+

    I'm pretty sure if "they" would just allow armed citizen volunteers to patrol the border the illegal immigrant thing would stop PDQ.

    But alas, there is simply too much money in the government "fighting this problem" for anything effective to be done about it.
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  3. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    did ya ever consider that big money might be paying to have the illegals come in?
    someone to work in their sweatshops for cheap
    we all know every elected official is on some ones payroll besides the right one
  4. CaboWabo5150

    CaboWabo5150 Hell's coming with me

    I don't know about the sweat shops Beast, but, they sure are out in force in the farmers fields of Northern Michigan..
  5. beast

    beast backwoodsman

    i used to work on the pickle farm near pinconning
    place was always loaded with migrant illegals
    used to beller out, "immigration is here" just to watch em
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  6. VisuTrac

    VisuTrac Ваша мать носит военные ботинки Site Supporter+++

    To tell you the truth, I don't want our government fencing,walling nor sensoring our borders.

    Worse yet, posting boys and girls in uniform with things that go bang all around our nation.

    Did you ever consider that those forces keeping illegal immigrants out, could also be used to keep us in?[cow]
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  7. goinpostal

    goinpostal Monkey+++

    I say we could take a lesson from the S.Koreans by putting a"Samsung Robot Sentry"every 100yrds along the southern border.Then our people nead not be put in harms way.
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  8. mysterymet

    mysterymet Monkey+++

    Land mines. Lots and lots of them.
  9. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    As terrorists can walk just as easily as an illegal; IMO, our borders ought to be secure.
  10. Hispeedal2

    Hispeedal2 Nay Sayer

    While I agree with the sentiment (bring the troops home, and the need to stop the border issues), the French tried something similar... the Maginot line. It didn't work out so well for the frogs ;)

    Seriously, I do believe that the best defense is a good offense. So, I'm not a fan of using troops that may be needed for something else.

    I think to properly discourage, we would have a crack down to which has never been seen. Unfortunately, there are too many "sympathizers" creating amnesty zones to be effective. Until we make our gov't responsible for upholding the laws we voted them into office to make, nothing will be done. Check out Larry Dever's statements.

    1) Feds must enforce laws with seriousness- no BSing to make it appear that arrests are down
    2) States need to enact local laws to enforce the Fed laws
    3) No more DLs for foreigners
    4) No more jobs for foreigners (helps economy as well)
    5) Hold "safe haven" politicians accountable- after a few are serving felony charges, that crap will stop
    6) Want emergency health care? Fine, we'll save your life... so you can be deported
    7) No general practice health care

    That's the few things that I can think of that would help.
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  11. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    No entitlements and fines for those who employ them with jail time for repeat offenders. However, there would be 30 plus million rioting illegals if the gravy train was shut off.
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  12. Seawolf1090

    Seawolf1090 Retired Curmudgeonly IT Monkey Founding Member

    And that is a real danger. In my town, the entire City Commission is corrupt, we have had members prosecuted for crimes and still served on the Commission and never went to jail. Even our Mayor is in Federal hot water now, but will likely weather it okay.
    They are heavily into the "Entitlement" protections (VOTES, baby!) and craft their laws and regulations accordingly.
    When the economy finally gets to the point of the Welfare checks not going out - WATCH OUT!
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  13. Tikka

    Tikka Monkey+++

    IMO, being afraid of the watch out is why the politicians only mention cuts to SS.
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  14. Espada

    Espada Monkey+

    Oh, Jesus Christ ! You sound like Ron Paul in the last debate.

    America is busy trying to keep the wrong people out, and always has been. If you don't like it here, haul ass... nobody's stopping you, and never will.
  15. Sapper John

    Sapper John Analog Monkey in a Digital World

    Espada, Everyone at the Monkey is entitled to their need to drop it down a notch or two there sport.
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